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MACHINIST Manual/CNC MASTERCAM X AUTOCAD2008 #5723 |
...Fuel Injection Gives you More HorsePower! But Carburation Gives You More Torque! I bet That will start a 'Great Debate'. Torque Pushes Your Pantera down the road, with X amount of 'Force' over a specific Length, Arm; and HorsePower is The 'Time' it takes the Engine to Rev to that point! For Our Precious Machines we Have I.R. and all kinds of 'Multi Port' Fuel Injection. We have Webbers, We have single 4 Barrels of all types on all kinds of Intake manifolds. And ofcorse, NoS, Turbos, and Super Charging! I'am sure I left out two or three, But one of them, My personal favorite, is Dual Quad, 2X4's, Twin Holleys, 8V's! Now I know Most all fuel injection is the best! Convenient, smooth, accurate! and gas efficient/saving. I can't help that I grew up in the time when they were selling this 'Set-up' off the showroom floors, on all makes of Big Blocks and Some SmallBlocks(I'am guessing). And since the Great Ford 427 came stock with Twin 4 Barrels, lets just see what a Dual Quad HighRise can do for a built-over Boss 351 Cleveland! The only dual quad manifold that will mate to the 351C is the Weiand Tunnel Ram, but it sits the carbs way too high for a street driven Pantera! My solution was to 'Discard' the top adapter, and Machine custom Mounting plates out og .625" Aluminum Alloy Plate; and then Mill/Grind/Polish/Blend the 8 ports. This lowers the carbs 2.5" from the Normal 'Tunnel Ram' height. This also lowers the power band, to a degree; how much? We are soon going to find out! And the closer the carb 'butterflies' are placed to the 'source' of the Vacuum signal; the Intake Valves, the greater will be the 'Throttle response'! I have had a lot of experience with holley Carburetors, and of running 2X4's on the street. The manifold and two 600 cfm carbs were purchased all separately, on eBay. The Machining was done in My Shop. Enjoy the pictures that follow, and remember this is Experimental and can be exchanged Back to a single 4 Barrel by undoing 12 Bolts, the Accelerator Linkage, Fuel line and some Vacuum hoses! I love these 'Dry' manifolds!!...
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Wow - seen the pictures - looks great.
Are the gas stations nice and close together where you live? Ex owner of #5012 |
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Marlin you are an artist my friend. Do you remember what the GT-40 Mk IV had in the back?? The twin 4 barrels on the 427 FE tucked just under the rear window where you could see them. They sat in a turkey roaster thing with two tubes coming out to hook up to the side scoops. You could see them working right underneath the glass. That was a work of art too. Those guys were geniuses back then.
Hey do you remember Hilborn fuel injectors?? They were mechanical injectors back before the transistor days of cars. THey were real cool looking too and you used to see them on race cars. They must have not worked very well or they would still be around though. |
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MACHINIST Manual/CNC MASTERCAM X AUTOCAD2008 #5723 |
...The GT-40 was the Maximum! My measurements dictate that, on this system, the front fuel bowl will sit with-in 1.0" of the rear glass, AND will press into the plug wire connectors on top of the Distributor Cap! The rear deck lid, LIP will sit right under the lower, rearmost edge of the Air Cleaner. I will add pictures when avaliable...
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still crazy after all these years |
Dying to see thosee pics - where are they? DeTom, are they in this post or a gallery somewhere else? Nothing shows here!
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Yeah dude, they are right here. Click on this and be prepared to have your mouth water. It is delicious. http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3350045562/m/8060094363 |
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still crazy after all these years |
Thanks DeTom. WOW! Nice work Marlin!
Can't wait to see them installed. Get someone to record the sound behind your head when you stomp on those! |
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Marlin, Neat photos. Are you planning on using them? The tall runners are good for high rpm engines and the 1200cfm should be good for an engine making over 1000hp. Are you planning on putting that on a street engine? It may make it difficult to drive/idle? Let us know what you do with it.
Gary |
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