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Mrs. Detomaso's nephew, and longchamp owner.
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I have not been able to find any source for ebrake cables for my goose. I have sent my old cable to some guys in CA and they say they can make something similar. Not to re-invent the wheel, but has anyone else done this? Is anyone else interested in one?

Thanks
We
 
Posts: 75 | Location: MA | Registered: March 29, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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My '71 Pantera
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Hi William,

I missed this post until now. My car requires these also.

I have some details from another Mangusta owner who had his replicated by a company that specializes in making cables of this sort, but the info is not with me here at the office. Later I was told that the original brake cables were not sheathed and are just standard aircraft cable on pulleys, so I am confused. I will try to get Denis to check his car which still has them.

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Posts: 1975 | Location: Ottawa, Ontario Canada | Registered: May 05, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Mrs. Detomaso's nephew, and longchamp owner.
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Mark;
You may be right, but the ones that came off my car were sheathed. Not the one from the handle to the pulley, but the one from the pully to the wheels.

I think it better if they all were sheathed, but this one was also fraying so it had to go.

We
 
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Here is the company that has made them in the past. Perhaps we can arrange a group purchase.

http://www.madisonpowersystems...rkingbrakecables.htm

Mark
 
Posts: 1975 | Location: Ottawa, Ontario Canada | Registered: May 05, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Has anybody ever upgraded the "umbrella" parking brake handle to the late 1970 style of parking brake that is in the floor?
Are these the same as a Pantera?
If originality is not an issue, many many cars have a nice parking brake assembly for the floor that could be fitted into a Mangusta on the right side of the drivers seat where the late 1970 park brake lever is.
 
Posts: 49 | Location: Nor Cal | Registered: March 22, 2009Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Remember there were TWO different rear brake calipers with different parking brakes built in, even though both were Girling. It may be that the small iron calipers and the big aluminum calipers take different length brake cables, or at least different ends. I borrowed a set of the aluminum rear brakes from a friend and he included the stock cables for that varient. I'll try to get some photos & measurements in my 'spare time'....
 
Posts: 1065 | Location: Minden NV | Registered: December 22, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Someone told me that they had some cables made up.....I had one made but the guy used thicker cable and it wouldn't move properly thru the balance pulley....PLUS I made it too long thinking I was engineering in an improvement...duh! Install and adjust the parking brakes with the car suspension fully loaded!!! (Not up on jackstands with the wheels hanging.....)

I "suspect" that no matter which set of brakes you have, Girling or Fiat-Girling (cast iron) that the ebrake cable is the same. The mechanisms on the brake calipers appear to be the same from one style to the other.

If I can locate whom it was that sent me info on this cable, I will most certainly forward it to all and perhaps a group purchase can be entertained! It was a reasonable price.... I still have the old cable, and all of the old parts that were installed on the thicker new cable.....

Steve


Steve
"A screaming Boss 302 is much quieter when it's no longer in the car....!"
 
Posts: 173 | Location: Santa Clara, CA | Registered: October 17, 2000Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Hi Jack, I (and others surely!) would REALLY apprciate any info on the parking brake cable assembly. MY puzzle car (#1010) has alloy rear calipers and never had the cable portion of the p-brake system. I'd especially like to get dimensions on the ends. Hoping they are machined parts that can be readily copied! I believe the flexible conduit sections are terminated with the same brass 'adapters' found on Panteras (2 required per conduit). If this is the case I'd be glad to provide dimensions for everyone on that part, have some of those laying around. The factory advertised lengths of the conduit is 750mm (left side) and 1000mm (right) but not sure if these were the 'actual' numbers. Regards to all, Nate Stevens


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Originally posted by Bosswrench:
Remember there were TWO different rear brake calipers with different parking brakes built in, even though both were Girling. It may be that the small iron calipers and the big aluminum calipers take different length brake cables, or at least different ends. I borrowed a set of the aluminum rear brakes from a friend and he included the stock cables for that varient. I'll try to get some photos & measurements in my 'spare time'....
 
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The alloy rear calipers use a varient of the pair-of-pliers style e-brake that Girling so loved, but the pieces are all stamped steel rather than cast iron. They actually resemble Pantera GT5-S e-brake parts- which themselves wre derived from Rolls-Royce rear brakes. I'm in the process of duplicating the OEM set I borrowed for one 'Goose owner. I can make others but remember who you're dealing with: I got a fairly full plate right now and I'm not getting younger... In the meantime, I'm trying to locate someone local to Reno that can reliably bond brake pad material to a chunk of steel. Then I can contour the pad in two planes for the actual stoppers. My ol' buddy 'Friction-Phil' in San Jose CA could do it but thats a 2-day trip for me nowadays. Ain't nothing straightforward on these beautiful beasts!
 
Posts: 1065 | Location: Minden NV | Registered: December 22, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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OK, looked up the old post and it looks like the person had a place make up cables with 1/8" (.125") cable.....

My original cable is 3mm or aprox .115" in diam.

New one I had made, the guy used .140" cable which is WAY too big. ( I hate it when guys don't listen to the customer!)

I thought Nate had found a source for 3mm cable...which would to me, be most ideal, even over 1/8" cable! I think that extra .010" would make it just that more stiff, and to go around that little pulley, the smaller the mo' better!

I believe that Wilkenson has the cable "ferels" or ends for the housing material. Housing material is semi generic....

It is just the lengths that need to be worked out, and the ends. If you have your old ends, they could be brazed to the new cable easy enuf. If you do not have new ends, then you would need to be certain that the new cable ends would fit the Girling ebrake clevis. Easy enuf.....

If someone out there can confirm these measurements, that would help us all!

Center-Center length of cable= 88"
Short cable housing= 29 15/16"
Long cable housing= 39 5/8"

Ferrel ends are not included in any measurements. They are the same as a Pantera ebrake part too.

More on this adventure later!!!

Steve


Steve
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