Question…… when switching to 180 headers….What have you guys done with the area where the mufflers used to exit, besides the obvious (welding / body work / paint). Any pictures / any ideas. Does it look OK with the areas empty? Does anyone make some carbon fiber Ford GT “like” fins?

I remember a guy 25 years ago that had zoomies coming out of both sides of his Pantera. He had a metal fabricator make up covers to go over the original exhaust opening. The covers had clips and screws to secure them in place so he could revert back any time he wanted. Too bad I don't have a picture of it.

I do, however, have a picture of the car a friend of mine bought from Dennis Daley. The car had 180 exhaust coming out of the opening that used to hold the a/c condenser. The original exhaust openning was covered and bondoed over. Here's a picture of it in Vegas when Dennis still owned it.




With the opening covered, something looks like it's missing. It's better and cleaner, though, than leaving the openning uncovered.

It sort of looks like the Lamborghini Murcielago rear end except the Murci is flatter and wider.



Some aftermarket body kit gave the Murci a better, racier look. It looks badda$$. I haven't found anybody that makes anything similar for the Pantera.



My opinion, yours may vary.

Aloha and good luck on your quest.

I did not think the car looked finished until I closed up the old openings

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The blackout paint on the bottom looks good and and a great idea.

Awesome!

White bunperless cars end is SMOOTH!! I dig that.

But on the subject of 180's. My stroker 377, with some horspower in it, how would it react to 180's? The engine is shop-built, and now has Hall headers, and Mindtrain exhaust. This setup should free up a few horses against the original pieces, but what more could the 180's be expected to give (what wendor has the best)? I guess the engine folks built it to suit the exhaust, so would a change nesessitate changes to the engines to make the most of it? Remember have read here somewhere that the 180's gives the extra punch only high in the revrange?

Here's a site I ran across when I was researching header design and 180 degree exhaust benefits Headers 101 ( Header Basics - A Guide To Understanding ). It's a general explanation that is very informative. It you want details on 180 headers and header design, I would read the writings of David Vizard.

One thing to remember in any discussion about 180s.

If you love the current sound of your Cleveland, please realize it will change drastically with 180s.

If you have heard, driven in, a car with 180s, then you realize this.

If you are mostly interested in the look and the sound is of no concern, then proceed as you wish.

Otherwise, seek out a car so equipped so you know what you are getting yourself into.

And of course, your choice of mufflers will also have an input to the final sound.

I personally do not prefer the sound of the 180s when compared to a good GTS Ansa system.

Larry (with a GTS Ansa system on 2511)