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I got out of Corvairs in 71. The simplest would be to use the 140 two carb heads but it was nothing to send a kid up in a crate like that.

Jim is a funny guy. It's always a love hate relationship with him and I outgrew needing him thirty years ago. He's more of a bling guy and needs everything chromed.

Tom. A third transition hole is a very simple thing to do. Why they were never installed from the beginning is really a mystery to me. I want to be fair to all involved and say that 48ida's on a 289 Ford was an experiment from the beginning and the advantage for me of following all the seemingly haphazard developments through racing helped me get a perspective on the "necessity is the mother of invention" thing and not to be affraid to have my own designs even if they fail miserably and make me look like a fool. The other side to that is some of the simplest things make you look like an understating genius. It all goes with the territory.

The fact of the matter is most folks will never have the fogiest idea WTF you are talking about anyway and you have to be willing to use (steal) someone else's ideas and not be afraid of the "not invented here syndrome".



The solution to all the issues of an IR manifold with carburetors is to go to an EFI system. The current "Holley Eight Stack" is a Weber counterfeit with hidden fuel injectors within. FI is not subject to fuel reversion since there is no fuel held in suspension in the throttle bodies throats like in a carb. So there is nothing for it to blow out.

The problem with that system is it is at least $8,000 on your manifold. I would want to put two equally built Clevelands on a dyno. One with the carbs. The other with the EFI and compare them rpm per rpm. I've got a sneaking suspicion that the carbs are more responsive and make more power up top?

I already know the EFI is cleaner at idle. No comparison there.



Tom. When I bought my Weber manifold from Hall in '76 or '77, the "thin" part was exactly the discussion I had with Gary about the Detomaso part.

I actually talked to Kleipeter about buying his car around then. Gary laughed and told me stay away from it and buy a real Pantera. Kleinpeter reminded me of the "Mad Hatter" in "Alice in Wonderland".



Truths are truths. Some times haunting in retrospect and sometimes come back and haunt you?

Boss: Inglese had the DCOE sidedrafts working on his 66 GT350. They were on the car when he blew up the engine at about 8,500 rpm's in front of the ice cream shop in New Jersey at the SAAC 10 Convention at the former Playboy club. I never saw him run those again. You can't get the valve covers off unless you take the carbs off.

I'm still happy with this type of a delusion. It keeps me away from what looks like a mass delusion going on in some circles these days.

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