Rob -
I don't know if it's too late to change your stripe orientation, but I really like the orientation of a more diagonal one (behind the front wheel) that's on F.A.S.T.'s car.....
Check it out. Another option.
I like your stealth body color. That's cool.
Rocky
PS> And I am sure that whether the stripe orientation pleases me is one of the key criteria of this build??
oooh Rocky... I agree that does look cool. It also could have had the Italian flag colors (looks like FAST's "may" be this way...not sure from the little avatar pic. Well... a bit late my friend... so you're just going to have to deal with it.. . That's what you get for coming late to the party....
One day I started the car at the local bar and grill and it set off the car alarm in the car next to me, don't worry it's not too loud. You'll do fine.
OK, so 6001 is ready to roll again. Thought I'd snap a few "ready to hit the road" shots...
I'm glad to see the effort on the hood paid off. I'm pleased to see how it looks out in the light.
Now.....it time to wear out some tires.....
I'm glad to see the effort on the hood paid off. I'm pleased to see how it looks out in the light.
Now.....it time to wear out some tires.....
quote:Originally posted by Rob Borruso:
OK, so 6001 is ready to roll again. Thought I'd snap a few "ready to hit the road" shots...
Now.....it time to wear out some tires.....
PURE PORN!
Very stealth. You need a driving suit to match? Maybe with a racing stripe on one sleeve?
I forgot what color you decided on here? Is this a pre-mixed "hot rod black" or did you have it matched to something?
Is that satin or is it flat?
Some are single stage, some use and activator?
I forgot what color you decided on here? Is this a pre-mixed "hot rod black" or did you have it matched to something?
Is that satin or is it flat?
Some are single stage, some use and activator?
I like the steering wheel.
What brand and hub?
Simon
What brand and hub?
Simon
I like the blacked out shifter gate!
Rob; Been following your build since last Oct. when you brought it home. Somewhat curious about the bumpers and stainless trim. Appears all the stainless was "blacked out" from when you got it and the bumper holes filled. Was the stainless originally polished stainless and previous owner "blacked out" the stainless? Was the bumper holes filled with intent of going bumperless or converting to different set?
I do like the stealth look.
I do like the stealth look.
JFB..glad I can be your porn source. I always wanted to be a porn producer.... I always thought that'd be a fun job.
Doug, I like it man! Black suite, black helmet, mirrored visor, red stripe on LH bicep. cool.... The paint actually.. isn't.... I used a epoxy primer/sealer (w/ activator). I'm at work as I type this and don't recall the exact details, but they were discussed a couple of pages back. Honestly, it was a challenge to spray it with a finish that I felt was acceptable to leave "as sprayed". Took a couple of shoots in some areas. I never worried about how it looked before, as I was just going to sand it before shooting color. So, had a bit of a learning curve to deal with. I'll drive it like this for a couple years before I fully disassemble for proper restoration, at which time she will go back to her OE red. But, for now...enjoying the opportunity to express my "artistic freedom".
Simon, the wheel is an aftermarket Nardi Personal. Hub is an ebay piece...nothing special. If desired, I can look up the specifics.
Jag, The trim was blacked out somewhere along the line. I simply re-did it. The stainless looks great under the paint, but I doubt I'll ever go the unpainted route on her. The bumper holes were welded closed when I got her. I am working on getting Euro style bumpers for the front. Wasn't thinking of using rear bumpers, but after installing the exhaust, I think they may be needed to finish the tail properly.
... I am totally digging the stealth look. I've never just done what I wanted with my restorations, always focusing on the most "sellable" approaches or keeping/putting back to stock. So, I'm going to enjoy the hell outa this while it lasts...
Doug, I like it man! Black suite, black helmet, mirrored visor, red stripe on LH bicep. cool.... The paint actually.. isn't.... I used a epoxy primer/sealer (w/ activator). I'm at work as I type this and don't recall the exact details, but they were discussed a couple of pages back. Honestly, it was a challenge to spray it with a finish that I felt was acceptable to leave "as sprayed". Took a couple of shoots in some areas. I never worried about how it looked before, as I was just going to sand it before shooting color. So, had a bit of a learning curve to deal with. I'll drive it like this for a couple years before I fully disassemble for proper restoration, at which time she will go back to her OE red. But, for now...enjoying the opportunity to express my "artistic freedom".
Simon, the wheel is an aftermarket Nardi Personal. Hub is an ebay piece...nothing special. If desired, I can look up the specifics.
Jag, The trim was blacked out somewhere along the line. I simply re-did it. The stainless looks great under the paint, but I doubt I'll ever go the unpainted route on her. The bumper holes were welded closed when I got her. I am working on getting Euro style bumpers for the front. Wasn't thinking of using rear bumpers, but after installing the exhaust, I think they may be needed to finish the tail properly.
... I am totally digging the stealth look. I've never just done what I wanted with my restorations, always focusing on the most "sellable" approaches or keeping/putting back to stock. So, I'm going to enjoy the hell outa this while it lasts...
quote:Originally posted by Rob Borruso:
JFB..glad I can be your porn source. I always wanted to be a porn producer.... I always thought that'd be a fun job.
Doug, I like it man! Black suite, black helmet, mirrored visor, red stripe on LH bicep. cool.... The paint actually.. isn't.... I used a epoxy primer/sealer (w/ activator). I'm at work as I type this and don't recall the exact details, but they were discussed a couple of pages back. Honestly, it was a challenge to spray it with a finish that I felt was acceptable to leave "as sprayed". Took a couple of shoots in some areas. I never worried about how it looked before, as I was just going to sand it before shooting color. So, had a bit of a learning curve to deal with. I'll drive it like this for a couple years before I fully disassemble for proper restoration, at which time she will go back to her OE red. But, for now...enjoying the opportunity to express my "artistic freedom".
Simon, the wheel is an aftermarket Nardi Personal. Hub is an ebay piece...nothing special. If desired, I can look up the specifics.
Jag, The trim was blacked out somewhere along the line. I simply re-did it. The stainless looks great under the paint, but I doubt I'll ever go the unpainted route on her. The bumper holes were welded closed when I got her. I am working on getting Euro style bumpers for the front. Wasn't thinking of using rear bumpers, but after installing the exhaust, I think they may be needed to finish the tail properly.
... I am totally digging the stealth look. I've never just done what I wanted with my restorations, always focusing on the most "sellable" approaches or keeping/putting back to stock. So, I'm going to enjoy the hell outa this while it lasts...
I just get this distinct impression that it is completely invisible to radar? I wonder why?
Don't forget about the aluminum foil mentioned some posts back....
Funny enough, the camera can't focus on the car. I have to lock the focus on some area with sharp edges or on the ground nearby then point at the area to be photod.
I don't think I want to test any theories with the local sheriff though.
Funny enough, the camera can't focus on the car. I have to lock the focus on some area with sharp edges or on the ground nearby then point at the area to be photod.
I don't think I want to test any theories with the local sheriff though.
Looks fantastic Rob. Super smooth and mean.
WOW! That came out wild! I must admit I was skeptical when you started doing the matte primer finish. Seeing it in progress had me wondering what you were thinking - but putting it all together in a hyper clean minimalist look is striking. Great job!! Rod
Thanks gents.
Update:
I've got about 100 miles on the car now. No real issues to speak of... I need to balance the front wheels, need to switch to a thinner or synthetic lube for the gearbox (get occasional crunches which I didn't get before putting in fresh 80/90 weight), replace factory oil sending unit.... nothing major. Really enjoying it. And...she's faster than stink.. whole lotta fun..!! She'll step out sideways with only modest "go pedal" application, and w/o even playing the clutch. Too cool.
Hey, on the oil topic... I have a mechanical oil pressure gauge hooked up, and running 2k rpms down the road I have 30-40 psi, spikes up as anticipated on higher RPM, however...when at idle (hot) the pressure drops to ~10 psi. Not too crazy about this. The engine is clearly fresh and quite stout, so can't believe it's "just an old engine". Has anyone else experienced and solved such a situation. I'm considering dropping the pan and putting in a fresh HV/HP pump.
Thx
I've got about 100 miles on the car now. No real issues to speak of... I need to balance the front wheels, need to switch to a thinner or synthetic lube for the gearbox (get occasional crunches which I didn't get before putting in fresh 80/90 weight), replace factory oil sending unit.... nothing major. Really enjoying it. And...she's faster than stink.. whole lotta fun..!! She'll step out sideways with only modest "go pedal" application, and w/o even playing the clutch. Too cool.
Hey, on the oil topic... I have a mechanical oil pressure gauge hooked up, and running 2k rpms down the road I have 30-40 psi, spikes up as anticipated on higher RPM, however...when at idle (hot) the pressure drops to ~10 psi. Not too crazy about this. The engine is clearly fresh and quite stout, so can't believe it's "just an old engine". Has anyone else experienced and solved such a situation. I'm considering dropping the pan and putting in a fresh HV/HP pump.
Thx
I like more oil pressure than that although 10-15 at idle is adequate. It actually is less stress on the drive pins.
I went with an HV oil pump 80 psi cold. about 45-50 hot.
Since I have remote oil filters and and oil cooler the length of the hoses is a consideration. Better off with a little higher pressure than a little low.
I went with an HV oil pump 80 psi cold. about 45-50 hot.
Since I have remote oil filters and and oil cooler the length of the hoses is a consideration. Better off with a little higher pressure than a little low.
Rob, I suspect a problem. I had an engine that suffered similar low oil pressure. I rebuilt it several times replacing the very low mileage worn crank bearings before discovering the cast crankshaft was cracked and at higher RPMs flexing enough to wipe the bearings. It was a frustrating issue and difficult to resolve because the initial magnaflux of the crank after the first experience didn't show the crack.
Also, if you are running a stout clutch, you are likely to see crank thrust surface wear with that low oil pressure.
If you go back in the engine seriously, there is a Thrust Bearing oiling mod (discussed in a POCA newsletter a couple years back).
I can get you more details if you are interested.
Rocky
I can get you more details if you are interested.
Rocky
Thanks for the thoughts guys. My mach runs at a much higher pressure in all operating RPMs.
I think changing the pump will be step one.
Rob
I think changing the pump will be step one.
Rob
Mr. Borruso,
You may want to bring your pantera to the Kalamazoo MI upcoming Ferrari and others meeting coming up at Gilmore in May! I will try to attend with my (not yet finished restoration) pushbutton. I just learned of the event today. Of course that goes to anyone else who wants to join.
Cheers,
Oreste.
#1329 PB
Michigan Ferrari Club Event
Kalamazoo, Michigan
Saturday, May 21st
EVENT AGENDA
10:30 AM -- Bill Parfet's Northwoods Private Car Collection Tour
6924 Sheffield Road, Hickory Corners, MI
NOTE: The Northwoods Collection, among other collector vehicles, currently has three Ferrari's including: Nicholas Cage's former 1967 275 GTB/4; 1973 365 GTB; & 1990 F-40
12:30 PM -- Gilmore Car Museum Ferrari Show and MuseumTour
6865 W Hickory Rd, Hickory Corners, MI
(Club members use main entrance for displaying vehicles in the Ferrari section)
6:30 PM -- Dinner at Bravo! Restaurant & Cafe
5402 Portage Road, Portage, MI (across from Kalamazoo Airport)
---------------------------------------------------------
Sign-up & event payment (no later than May 14th) to Ferrari Club of Michigan, 750 West Long Lake Road, Bloomfield Hills, MI 48302. Address questions to: Jim Pawlak at careermoves@hotmail.com or 248-705-5219
You may want to bring your pantera to the Kalamazoo MI upcoming Ferrari and others meeting coming up at Gilmore in May! I will try to attend with my (not yet finished restoration) pushbutton. I just learned of the event today. Of course that goes to anyone else who wants to join.
Cheers,
Oreste.
#1329 PB
Michigan Ferrari Club Event
Kalamazoo, Michigan
Saturday, May 21st
EVENT AGENDA
10:30 AM -- Bill Parfet's Northwoods Private Car Collection Tour
6924 Sheffield Road, Hickory Corners, MI
NOTE: The Northwoods Collection, among other collector vehicles, currently has three Ferrari's including: Nicholas Cage's former 1967 275 GTB/4; 1973 365 GTB; & 1990 F-40
12:30 PM -- Gilmore Car Museum Ferrari Show and MuseumTour
6865 W Hickory Rd, Hickory Corners, MI
(Club members use main entrance for displaying vehicles in the Ferrari section)
6:30 PM -- Dinner at Bravo! Restaurant & Cafe
5402 Portage Road, Portage, MI (across from Kalamazoo Airport)
---------------------------------------------------------
Sign-up & event payment (no later than May 14th) to Ferrari Club of Michigan, 750 West Long Lake Road, Bloomfield Hills, MI 48302. Address questions to: Jim Pawlak at careermoves@hotmail.com or 248-705-5219
Hi Oreste, thanks so much for thinking to share this info with me. Appreciated. Sounds like fun. I'll have to check the schedule with the boss.
When I had the engine built we noticed a thumping noise coming from the oil pan. We thought it was from the larger crank hitting the oil pan. Maybe it is something more serious.
Hi Robert,
Thanks for chiming in with this. I too heard the odd noise, and you tip resulted in me putting up on the hoist and pushing on the bottom of the pan. Sure enough....the noise changes and I can feel the crank hitting the pan. It looks like someone tried to make clearance with a hammer...but wasn't exactly successful. Thanks again.
Anyone got an aftermarket deep pan they want to unload...
Thanks for chiming in with this. I too heard the odd noise, and you tip resulted in me putting up on the hoist and pushing on the bottom of the pan. Sure enough....the noise changes and I can feel the crank hitting the pan. It looks like someone tried to make clearance with a hammer...but wasn't exactly successful. Thanks again.
Anyone got an aftermarket deep pan they want to unload...
quote:Originally posted by Rob Borruso:
...someone tried to make clearance with a hammer...but wasn't exactly successful...
what if took a section of pipe, the diameter of the crank throw, and used it as a mandrel to form the pan's bottom.
a little heat to reduce chance of cracking and a wooden cradle cut for support
Yep....that should do the trick JFB.
Hey Rob - looking awesome there...
What steering wheel have you got in her? I haven't been able to source the one I really want so I'm thinking of "settling" on a Momo Prototipo but that one looks nice too!
What steering wheel have you got in her? I haven't been able to source the one I really want so I'm thinking of "settling" on a Momo Prototipo but that one looks nice too!
quote:Anyone got an aftermarket deep pan they want to unload...
Be sure to use a fully baffled road race pan to protect your engine. I've heard good things about the Kevko pan as a more affordable option than an Aviad or Armando pan.
http://www.kevkoracing.com/ford.htm
Part # F602-400M
Ford Pantera Pan
Hi guys... been a while, need to get some updates posted.
I purchased an NOS Milodon pan and pick up (they are no longer available... so got lucky). It is fully gated. I like the design and quality. Nice piece. However, in doing the install (you all know what's coming next... ;-) I didn't want to pull the engine, so fabricated a removable cross member.
I still need to trim the long ends which hand down below the frame, but ran out of time on the day of the project. I'll take care of that when she comes apart for restoration.
Since then.... well....still working on wearing out the tires I have about 300 miles on her now (well...the odometer shows that, but don't forget about the previous sentence). Much of that was in drift...LOL. I really am enjoying her. She "tram lines" a bit on roads with heavy tire wells but think it has a lot to do with the existing wear on the front tires (don't forget..they are from 4042), I need to balance the front tires and will swap out the radiator for an aluminum one I have, to keep the temp on check..as she gets up around 230* in heavy traffic . Other than than..all is good. She runs like a beast jacked up on a triple espresso... I love it...
I purchased an NOS Milodon pan and pick up (they are no longer available... so got lucky). It is fully gated. I like the design and quality. Nice piece. However, in doing the install (you all know what's coming next... ;-) I didn't want to pull the engine, so fabricated a removable cross member.
I still need to trim the long ends which hand down below the frame, but ran out of time on the day of the project. I'll take care of that when she comes apart for restoration.
Since then.... well....still working on wearing out the tires I have about 300 miles on her now (well...the odometer shows that, but don't forget about the previous sentence). Much of that was in drift...LOL. I really am enjoying her. She "tram lines" a bit on roads with heavy tire wells but think it has a lot to do with the existing wear on the front tires (don't forget..they are from 4042), I need to balance the front tires and will swap out the radiator for an aluminum one I have, to keep the temp on check..as she gets up around 230* in heavy traffic . Other than than..all is good. She runs like a beast jacked up on a triple espresso... I love it...
Did you change the oil pump out as well?
How's the oil pressure?
Sounds like you are having a blast.
Rocky
How's the oil pressure?
Sounds like you are having a blast.
Rocky
Hi Rocky,
Nope, didn't change the pump. Took it apart, it looked good inside...brand new looking in fact. So, I put on the aftermarket pick up, new pan, 50w oil....and put it back together. All seems good so far, even at 230*. So, think it was a combination of the original p/u and pan.
Yep total blast, self control seems to go out the window though...so just need to keep from getting arrested...
Nope, didn't change the pump. Took it apart, it looked good inside...brand new looking in fact. So, I put on the aftermarket pick up, new pan, 50w oil....and put it back together. All seems good so far, even at 230*. So, think it was a combination of the original p/u and pan.
Yep total blast, self control seems to go out the window though...so just need to keep from getting arrested...
OK...so camping season is over...time to get crackin again...
I decided she needed bumpers...so got in touch with Mr. McCall and picked up some fiberglass pieces for the front.
1) Do any shaping necessary before installing mounting bolts, so you can fit to the body contour.
2) Welded some 1/4-20 carriage bolts to a metal strip to keep them parallel to each other and glassed them in.
3) Paint..install
I decided she needed bumpers...so got in touch with Mr. McCall and picked up some fiberglass pieces for the front.
1) Do any shaping necessary before installing mounting bolts, so you can fit to the body contour.
2) Welded some 1/4-20 carriage bolts to a metal strip to keep them parallel to each other and glassed them in.
3) Paint..install
Looking good Rob. I like it!
Those look great rob.
Thanks guys. I finally got her out in the daylight today to get a better look at them.
Looks great. Smooth fit.
I'll go ahead an apoligize for asking a dumb question...
what is the significance of the red strip on the left fender?
what is the significance of the red strip on the left fender?
JFB, I'll add a possibly dumb answer.
I'd heard of someone adding a similar stripe on a race car to differentiate it from other similar colored cars. (??) I fail to remember who it was attributed to however.
I'd heard of someone adding a similar stripe on a race car to differentiate it from other similar colored cars. (??) I fail to remember who it was attributed to however.
Hi guys,
Correct...the stripe...while it's just for fun..was intended to identify cars within a team (i.e. similar looking team colors).
Yep...similar look we're chasing there Larry.... :-)
Correct...the stripe...while it's just for fun..was intended to identify cars within a team (i.e. similar looking team colors).
Yep...similar look we're chasing there Larry.... :-)
Hey Rob,
It's been a couple of years. Time for some updates!
It's been a couple of years. Time for some updates!
Hey Garth...
You are so right...!! I'm going crazy... Here's the back story. Last fall I decided to move out of a sub and onto acreage so I could have my dream barn/workshop. So...Q3/Q4 of 2017 was home improvement/prep for listing. Moved in Feb 2018.. wow!! Moving a shop of 17yrs of accumulated "sh_t" ...wow..! That was a task. So the cars are packed like sardines in a can. Have only managed to get 6001 out twice all season. Barn is almost done..should be wrapped up by end of Nov. Shop set up should be in Dec. Target is to be up and functional over Christmas break. Let's see how it goes....
Thanks for not forgetting about me man. Nice to feel the luv..
You are so right...!! I'm going crazy... Here's the back story. Last fall I decided to move out of a sub and onto acreage so I could have my dream barn/workshop. So...Q3/Q4 of 2017 was home improvement/prep for listing. Moved in Feb 2018.. wow!! Moving a shop of 17yrs of accumulated "sh_t" ...wow..! That was a task. So the cars are packed like sardines in a can. Have only managed to get 6001 out twice all season. Barn is almost done..should be wrapped up by end of Nov. Shop set up should be in Dec. Target is to be up and functional over Christmas break. Let's see how it goes....
Thanks for not forgetting about me man. Nice to feel the luv..
Congratulations Rob,
We moved to the country 8 years ago and I just finished my workshop/garage. Mine is 32x42 which seemed HUGE on paper (and when it was empty) but I still need the house garage to put a car plus the daily drivers. I look forward to seeing how yours turned out.
Mark
We moved to the country 8 years ago and I just finished my workshop/garage. Mine is 32x42 which seemed HUGE on paper (and when it was empty) but I still need the house garage to put a car plus the daily drivers. I look forward to seeing how yours turned out.
Mark
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