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with a 10 quart oil pan how should the dip stick be

Not sure exactly what you want to know, but here's some info about determining the correct length for your dipstick when using an Armando or Aviad 10-quart oil pan.

Source: http://www.realbig.com/piperma...November/091125.html

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To settle it for all of you that have bought an Armando pan, when AVIAID designed that pan the static oil capacity of the pan was set at 9qt. That fills the pan to the underside of the hard tray that is bolted in on top of the pickup box assembly in the pan. Our instructions for actual capacity determination are to fill an empty pan, installed on the engine in a car sitting on flat ground, with 8qts. of oil. Mark your dipstick. Add one additional quart, and mark the stick again. This is full. The first mark is the low mark. This should be only about 3/8" given the sump area of the pan.

Start the engine, letting oil circulate and fill the engine, filter and any cooler or lines that may be part of the system. Shut the engine off, and add back to the top mark. This will be system capacity.

Depending on engine and operating conditions the ideal level can vary. Ideal oil level is a point between fluctuating oil pressure and excess carry over of oil out of the engine venting system. If the engine tends to trap oil up in the engine, it will like an extra 1/2 quart. If the engine returns oil well, it might like 1/2 quart low. Experience will tell.

John Schwarz
AVIAID Oil Systems
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Chatsworth CA 91311-3004
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The stock dipstick length from the tip to the beginning of the cup opening was 38 1/2". HOWEVER, this is wrong! Ford issued a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) instructing dealers to shorten the dipstick to 38" from tip to beginning of the cup opening, which is the correct length.

I would think it makes little difference what oil pan is on the car as the dipstick is mounted/indexed from the block and the full level mark will be in the same relative position to the crank and block regardless of whether the pan holds 5 quarts or 10 quarts. I'm sure others who have mounted 10-quart pans will chime in with their experience.
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I'm sure others who have mounted 10-quart pans will chime in with their experience.

I agree with Garth.

I must have missed the Aviad posting, as I do not recall this.

I think the Aviad advice is good for a full custom system, perhaps? Where you are building your own dipstick tube, etc?

Ford calculated where the oil should be in relation to the crank, etc. THAT is the correct mark on the dipstick. And as long as you have followed the Pantera TSB on proper length, and you continue to use the OEM Pantera system, your oil fill point remains the same with any wet sump pan.

Larry
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