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It's a sad day, but I put my Pantera up for sale. Simply, I don't get to drive it enough.

Many excuses: at the rear of the garage, Danish climate, not much going on in Danish Pantera community (wish I lived in Arizona Chuck), I’ve gotten fed up participating in classic car gettogethers here in Copenhagen area where people sit on the cars etc general chaos, and no tracks to have fun on near me.

So the only use I have for it is trips like my trip to Spa and LMC, where the wife kinda prefers the Longchamp, and so do I if I take a pre-trip around Italy or Switzerland. So maybe I can have more fun with that money and space buying something else.

I had Gallerie Brummen ( http://www.gallery-aaldering.com/en/ ) guy evaluate it, he said €115, looking at the others on mobile.de I've set my price at €119 because it's faster than all of them I think.

If somebody wants a well handling and fast narrow-body Pantera, I think this is a good place to look...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_cAiqZlvnk

BTW; Longchamp is not for sale, so you won't get rid of me entirely...
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DeTomaso Pantera 2518 for sale, January 1972, €119.900

• Rust free California car imported to Denmark by current owner 7 years ago. Painted 4 years ago
• 593 HP 408 stroker with dynosheet by reputable builder, approx. 10k miles
• ZF looked over and safety wired
• New bushings etc, new brake kit with Wilwood calipers all wheels, billet p-brake calipers
• Never overheats
• Everything works including A/C, though right side window moves very slowly
• Tested with RaceLogic equipment, 0-60 3.92s, 1.00G cornering, 0.96G braking

Further details:
408 MME Racing Stroker
CHI 3V heads and intake
10q oil pan, baffled
Holley Pro Series carb dynoed on this engine
ICE Ignition, ability to change ignition curve and 2 step limiter from driver’s seat
Coated headers
ZF taken apart, checked and safety wired
New clutch 6000 miles ago
Lay down radiator with two puller fans, one on thermostat switch, one controlled manually
All cooling hoses double clamped
Stainless walls firewall and tank, stainless bottles for coolant
A/C OEM works perfectly, thermostat on dash, rarely on full A/C, that’s too cool!
New master and slave clutch cylinders, full clutch action and not very hard to push, send your grandma to the shops in it…
Pantera Electronics Fuse Box and park/turn front signals
No radio, listen to the engine
Body and paint, body completely bare, matchbox size rust patch in left B-pillar, fixed, have pictures
Panels gaps quite good, seen a few better, seen many worse...
Fresh paint, real shiny, a chip or two
Campy clones 17” with Michelin Pilot Sports, 335 at rear
Complete Dennis Quella brake kit, Wilwood and discs, perfectly balanced, rear p-brake calipers replaced with billet ones
All bushings etc replaced in suspension, new adjustable shocks/springs
Low stance, but tires never rubbing on body
New three point belts, if preferred 4 point race belts including cross bar are available
Interior mostly stock, nice seats and carpet, some patina
Driver’s seat moved 1½” to the right, to align with steering wheel, pedals and shifter, makes a world of difference
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Originally posted by No Quarter:
A thought, how do I get paid. Usually when I've sold cars they have been low value and in Denmark, so cash or bank certified cheque has worked fine. I'd rather not have up to $135k in cash at any time....

Any advice on how to handle payment in a safe way for both buyer and seller?


There has to be an element of trust or for piece of mind use an escrow account. I have always wired the money to the sellers account and had the same in my account as a seller, then the title is couriered overnight to the new owner (assuming it does not have to accompany the vehicle for importation etc.) and the car ships as soon as it can be picked up. I do spend some time with the seller on the phone (if I am not personally inspecting the vehicle) and an internet search to verify he/she is who they say they are and address etc., plus get a copy of an ID (license, passport etc.)

What's the newer dream car?

Julian
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What's the newer dream car?

Many thoughts and not there yet, but here's the short list:
-Ferrari 456GTA: Beautiful out and in, and every gearhead should own a complex V12 once in his life, right?
-Maserati GranTurismo: Beautiful out and in, and for some strange reason there's plenty of them for sale here in Denmark, so possible to get a relatively cheap car less than 10 years old (= new in my book)
-Porsche Cayman: Beautiful, not. But they say it's world's best handling sportscar. And it would be nice to own at least one economical car

Surpassing the Pantera on rawness and performance, on that I have given up. Less power will have to suffice.
I thought that was your car that I saw on ebay a couple of days ago, sorry to see you put your cat up for sale but understand. I almost did the same three years ago after I bought my 5.0L XKR. It was just so easy to drive quickly, and I didn't have to worry if it was warmer than 75F or if there was traffic, both of which are assured in Los Angeles about 362 days a year. Instead I chose to make the Pantera more driveable adding new engine, fans, clutch, headers, leather interior, fuel injection......another week or two, and I'll know if it was worth the wait. As to the 456, they are certainly still very reasonably priced if not a little tamer than the Maranello. A word of caution on the Maserati, every person I know, without exception, has had major problems with their Maseratis, no matter what the model, beautiful to look at, great exhaust sound, horrible reliability! And by the way, you can now get a 5.0L XKR in the mid-$20K range, in stock form will easily outperform the Gran Turismo, and with a pulley/tune for about $600, you're above 600hp. These cars are extremely reliable, and you'll have over $120,000's worth of change left in your pocket.

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I thought that was your car that I saw on ebay a couple of days ago, sorry to see you put your cat up for sale but understand. I almost did the same three years ago after I bought my 5.0L XKR. It was just so easy to drive quickly, and I didn't have to worry if it was warmer than 75F or if there was traffic, both of which are assured in Los Angeles about 362 days a year. Instead I chose to make the Pantera more driveable adding new engine, fans, clutch, headers, leather interior, fuel injection......another week or two, and I'll know if it was worth the wait. As to the 456, they are certainly still very reasonably priced if not a little tamer than the Maranello. A word of caution on the Maserati, every person I know, without exception, has had major problems with their Maseratis, no matter what the model, beautiful to look at, great exhaust sound, horrible reliability! And by the way, you can now get a 5.0L XKR in the mid-$20K range, in stock form will easily outperform the Gran Turismo, and with a pulley/tune for about $600, you're above 600hp. These cars are extremely reliable, and you'll have over $120,000's worth of change left in your pocket.

tberg, you might have talked me into it! I looked at Jag XKR ads just now, never had before, and found a reasonably priced fully loaded 2007 XKR Conv. My first car was a convertible, haven't had one since, maybe it's time again.

What are the potential problem areas that you know of? Sorry, but "extremely reliable" and Jag is not my perception, but maybe I'm just like so many other, thinking of past sins?
tberg, disregard my previous posting, because things moved fast today. I went to see a 2007 XKR Conv, I heard it, I drove it, I bought it. What a car, well handling, luxurious, and with the sport exhaust LOUD! Not Pantera loud, but rest-of-the-world loud. And fast. Not Pantera fast, but rest-of-the-world fast.

And a convertible, I have for some time wanted a convertible, I haven't had one since my first car (Triumph Spitfire MKIII).

And a one year warranty...

I went on an English Jag forum, asking for problem areas, there seem to be almost none, at least compared to a Maserati. So I think I got a better car, cheaper and with less crazy repairs in the future I think.

tberg, thanks for the suggestion, never thought I'd own a British car again, my own stupid prejudice...


BTW, anybody want to buy my Pantera, I need the money... Big Grin

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