Thanks David ,
You have a good memory but I was forget.
think because my age.
I alreay try several combinations and it will not work , when I connect + on spong , 1 there is also + on 2 .and was opened when I switch .
when I connect + on 3 there is no + on 4 , also not when I switched , the same problem on the other terminals.
I have 2 other new switches and the same problem
I open the ( new )switch carefully and think th problem is inside , the brass is dark , maybe the brass is corroded and have no conecting whit the terminals .
I go sand the terminals slightly and reasamble the switch.
let you know if this will work .
Regards
Simon