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I found this in a 2012 Hot Rod article. There are several difference from what I have read in the forum. What does everyone think? Is this new theory or just different.

If you are in between the two extremes--say 6,100 through 7,900 rpm with a production Cleveland block--you still might consider restricting the oil passages. If using the old-school main-saddle restrictor plug technique, the current recommended practice is not to restrict oil to the No. 1 main saddle, because this passage also supplies splash on the timing chain in addition to lubricating the distributor gear. This is why today's restrictor plug kits (including the referenced Moroso kit) now have only four small restrictors for the main saddles.

The kit's single, large plug that goes in the No. 5 main saddle's big hole should only be installed if running solid flat-tappet or solid-roller cams. It should not be used with any hydraulic flat-tappet or hydraulic-roller lifter. Also, use late-model, high-perf hydraulic lifters with a small oil opening (0.040 inch), or use restricted pushrods as noted above. Whether it's wise to take a hydraulic cam to such high rpm is, of course, another question entirely.



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Originally posted by captaintobeys:

This is why today's restrictor plug kits (including the referenced Moroso kit) now have only four small restrictors for the main saddles.



The Hot Rod Magazine explanation is backwards.

The original practice was to install small restrictors for cam bearings 2 through 5, a large restrictor for the left hand oil passage, and 8 tappet bore bushings for the right hand tappet bores. The bushings were only recommended for solid tappets. The new practice is to install small restrictors for all 5 cam bearings, the large restrictor is no longer used, and bushings are installed in all 16 tappet bores. They are recommended regardless of which type of tappet is being used.

The Moroso kit never had 5 small restrictors, it has always had only 4 small restrictors. The number of restrictors in the kit has never changed. The old practice was to use 4, the current recommendation is to use 5. The kit originally contained 4 restrictors for two reasons:

(1) Installation of the restrictor at the #1 saddle is a bit more complicated than the other 4.
(2) Folks didn't believe it was necessary because the configuration of the oil passages makes it seem as though the #1 cam bearing passage would not rob oil from the #1 main bearing.

Lubrication of connecting rods 2 through 7, which are supplied by main bearings 2, 3 and 4 are the problem areas. Lubrication of the #1 connecting rod, via the #1 main bearing, has never been a problem; BUT the #1 cam bearing passage DOES divert a significant amount of oil away from the main passage thus impacting lubrication downstream. Experience has proven that installation of the restrictor for the #1 cam bearing improves the performance of the lubrication system significantly without any negative effects in terms of timing chain & distributor gear lubrication. The small restrictors in the Moroso kit have 0.060" orifices in them. A tremendous amount of oil flows out of an 0.060" restriction. Nothing is being under-lubricated.

Note: unless a restrictor for the #1 cam bearing is installed we haven't completely converted the 351C lubrication system to a "main priority" system.

In terms of the big restrictor, it was traditionally used at the #5 main saddle to limit oil supplied to all 8 of the tappets on the left hand side of the engine block. It was used in conjunction with 8 tappet bore bushings for the right hand tappets. That practice has been abandoned. The big restrictor is not recommended for any installation. It has been superseded by the use of tappet bore bushings for all 16 tappet bores. There are at least five benefits to this change:

(1) 16 tappet bore bushings insure a consistent amount of oil is supplied to all 16 valves, where it lubricates the rocker arm fulcrums and cools the valve springs (i.e. consistency of valve train lubrication).
(2) It prevents excessive oil flowing to waste at all 16 tappet bores.
(3) It alleviates tappet incompatibility issues for all 16 tappet bores.
(4) If hydraulic tappets are being used, it insures optimal performance of all 16 hydraulic tappets (i.e. consistency of valve train operation).
(5) If any of the 16 tappets pops-out of their bore lubrication of the rotating assembly will not be impacted.

I've never liked the idea of the big restrictor. In order to insure consistency of valve train operation & lubrication at all 16 valves I installed bushings in all 16 tappet bores even back in the 1970s & 1980s. My father-in-law was a machinist, he made the bushings for me, they only cost me the price of the round stock to make them ... and some beers and steaks. This practice came in handy. After installing a solid tappet cam (and 16 tappet bore bushings) in my first 351C I decided I didn't like the drivability and I went back to a hydraulic tappet cam. Nobody I knew of had ever gone back to using hydraulic tappets after installing bushings. But I had no valve train issues using the Johnson HT900 hydraulic tappets with the tappet bore bushings (which had 0.060" orifices in them). I've always believed that success was due in part to the fact the engine block had tappet bore bushings in all 16 bores instead of just the 8 on the right hand side.

-G
Last edited by George P
IMO the cam bearing restrictors are like a tiny splinter in the pinky finger while the lifter bores are more like a nearly amputated limb

the downward pressure of the valve springs onto the camshaft is already doing a fine job of shutting off oil to the cam bearings. if you just can't live w/o restricting the cam bearings, you can drill a new orifice hole opposite the manufacturer's & install them to use your oil hole instead and use the kit to do the #1 cam bearing in 4 engines because the front bearing has a lot going on behind it & must be set in proper orientation. the front bearing can & should however, be clocked to limit the exposure of the small orifice in the bearing face... & must not be set back more than .005"
Another thing to consider when adding restricters: that #1 cam bearing passage also supplies a 'divot' on the edge of the block. This is a controlled leak for lubing the backside of the camshaft sprocket, which otherwise wears the front of the block and the sprocket. And a few have tapped into that short passage with a small drill to provide a squirt of oil into the cam/distributor gear drive mesh.

I've always wondered if what a NASCAR racer once said was true- the prototype 351-C oiling system was similar to solid lifter 427 FE blocks, but some committee altered the block architecture late in the game for hydraulic lifters, since it looked like performance-only engines were not the future in 1970. That might explain what some call the "Byzantine" configuration of the Cleveland's oiling map (partially corrected in the 429/460 blocks).
My engine has the "distributor gear squirter" that Bosswrench describes, although I was able to have a hole machined into an oil gallery plug. By strategic test fitting and drilling, the hole is perfectly aligned to squirt oil on the cam/distributor gear interface.

In addition, I also followed the advice of some smart person, who recommended an oil lubrication hole to be drilled into the thrust bearing surface and bearing into the #3 bearing to the oil feeld line, to allow steady, pressurized oiling to the crant Thrust Bearing. This mod was described in on of the "relatively recent" POCA Newsletters.

Rocky

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