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Well I have been with American Hobbyist for a number of years, but they have declined to insure the Ultima for a reasonable value (they were okay until I had to send in the photo's, then it "looked too much like a race car" in their words!) however, they also stated they HAVE to cover ALL my collection, so I guess I'm looking for new coverage.

American Hobbyist have a "timed event and competitive racing" exclusion, which to my mind permits non timed track days.

In getting alternative quotes I come up with some comparative pricing, but all the other classic insurers have an "any track event" exclusion. What is everyone else doing and are you sure you are covered for track events like PCNC?

Thanks,
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There are "loopholes" in the system that can be implimented by the sanctioning body to cover such events.

For example: When the Shelby club has it's track day here in Portland at P.I.R. they place traffic cones down the center of the main straight (which doubles as the 1/4 mile drag strip). This is the only area where passing is allowed, when coming onto the strip and two cars are nose-to-tail, a flag is waved signalung the first car to stay to the right of the cones, while the faster car goes left and proceeds to pass.

When I asked why this was done, it was explained to me that as long as you have a legally defined passing zone (slower traffic keep right, passing on left only) technicially you are no longer racing hence any on track incidents are covered by your regular insurance coverage.

While it may seem dull compared to regular "racing", the game becomes one of either opening or closing the gap of the car in front of or behind you for the dreaded "flag event".

As for speed, you are not exceeding any posted speed limits and as for timers.....uh, I did not see any stop watches, did you Wink
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There are "loopholes" in the system that can be implimented by the sanctioning body to cover such events.


I think the insurance companies are tightening up on those loopholes, the insurance applications I have just received all state exclusions for 'any type of on track event', that is all but American Hobbyist my current insurer. But they have a limit on kit car values, so I'd have to underinsure it.
Hi Julian,
When I used to run my blue Pantera in the track events here is Arizona, they called them performance driving classes. You had to go through one of the classes with an instructor and then they would take you out and help you understand the apex's etc.. Every time you went out after that was an extension of the performance driving course. Some insurance carriers even gave discounts if you took the class. And we had an agent for State Farm that raced in the race groups that if your insurance would not cover you, then for $30 a day they (State Farm)would cover you while you ran on the track. It could not be a timed event. The red group only had passing on the straight ( just over a half mile long), approx. 1.65 mile course, but if you ran in the green group you could pass any where! They called these gentlemen passing rules( I think they were more agressive than many of the full race groups).
Kevin
But Julian your insurance company is right. If you race it, you will wreck it. So sell your car to me as I have never raced on a track. I have never even had a speeding ticket my whole life. Sell me your car and it will never go faster than the speed limit again in its life. It will be like putting it out to stud. Easy retirement. Puttering around parking lots.
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