Gt4 original vs gt4 hall fenders

Peter,

Many of the vendors GRP4 steel flares are notorious for being a really bad fit and finish requiring lots of work. I returned the steel set I purchased and went for fiberglass as the originals used. If you have steel on your car they are not original from the factory.

If they are much wider is it possible you have steel GTS flares and not GRP4?

Typically people are using wider wheels (10" front and 13" rear) with offsets specifically for the wider body/flares. This is in keeping with the originals that used the wide Campi 10 spoke wheels. That said there is nothings topping you using wheel spacers, although they would need to be quite wide to push the wheel from a narrow body out to a flared.

Julian

Hi Julian, thanks for your email.
I am so sorry but I can not upload some pictures here from my cellphone.
The steel gp4 flares would be realy a lot of work to make them fit.
The pree owner sold his 13x15 campis so I only have 10x15 campy but they look to small on this car. I bought some new 17x12 wheels and 335/ 35 r17 tires and they look realy nice on my car. BUT : when I install the "original" fender flaires the 335 tires are 3-4 cm to small!
The fender flares will stand 4 and front side about 7 cm away from the tires!

This will be the best result with gp4 flares when i weld them inside and cut about 4 cm

This was the original version with the ugly tips .

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My old flares are "flat" the new ones are round.

The original Gt4/gr4 flares were rounded and fiberglass, so the flares welded to your car are not original. The Hall flares in form and shape looks like the original glasfiber ones. The factory never installed steel flares.

The original fiberglas flares looks like in the Picture below and are available from most of the vendors.

Look at the Rick P. Group 4 conversion. Look at the last two pages first....

He has rounded fiberglass flares like Push shows.

He had a lot of work to make them fit.

Rocky

Rick P.'s Project - Group 4

I do not know exactly if this is right, but there is an other one gt4 pantera here in Austria wich have also steel flares...
I heard that detomaso did some cars for shows and they had weldet steel flares.
This must be true, because the owner of the other one car have multiple sclerose since 25jears and there is rust everywhere on this gt4 because nobody drives it since this time.
It is so a sad storry but he do not sell the car.
He think that one time, he will drive it again.

My Pantera also has steel GRP4 / GT5 flares from the factory. A special order in 1978.

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My Pantera also has steel GRP4 / GT5 flares from the factory

Bdud -

Could you post up a couple pictures? While I don't know anything about Peter's car, the design of his fenders doesn't resemble the (few)GT4/Group 4 cars I have seen. They look custom made to me, but I might be wrong.

It would be interesting to see what yours look like.

Rocky

Here is a picture of the article from Motor magazine. The full article is also in one of the DeTomaso books.

Pictured outside the UK DeTomaso importer. This is also from one of the books. I have some pictures in the registry, 9070. The flares and side skirts are all steel. I don't have the rear or front spoilers, not sure what they were made of.

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9070

Very cool. Thanks for sharing the article.

Regards -

Rocky

Wow nice ! This are my fenders !
They are straight and not round and they are only a little bit wider than a gts version!
My front spoiler is also made of steel.
But it is repaiered often and looks like a standart fiberglass spoiler ..