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I am wondering if anyone can shed any history on Pantera 4621, a righthand drive UK registered car (VNP653L) of 1973.

I have owned the car since 2012 and have spent most of that time "recommissioning" the car for road use. When I bought it the car had been off the road for about 25 years and was basically "in boxes".

I say recommissioning, as opposed to "restoring" as the car was substantially modified in its earlier life and is far from original. Obvious changes include a wide body "kit" and bundle-of-snakes exhaust, but less obvious are removal of air conditioning and replacing with an oil cooling radiator, relocation of the fuel tank to the front hood space, dual circuit braking and a multitude of engine and suspension mods.

All I know about the history of the car is that it was owned in the 1970's by a Mr Richard Eggington in Warwickshire and (at some time in his ownership) was registered RPE3. I understand that he participated in some form of Motorsports with it and that this accounts for many of the modifications. Certainly when I bought it the engine had a racing camshaft, lightened flywheel and competition clutch. These caused no end of issues for road use and have  since been changed, along with a new carb, inlet manifold conversion back to hydraulic tappets and a new electronic ignition system.

I believe the car was also painted yellow (traces remained in the central tunnel); it is now red.

I should like to try and learn a little more about the car's early history - in particular of its competitive use and hence why it was modified. I should be delighted if anyone "out there" knows anything about it and could tell me.

The "good news" is that the car is back on the road and, after some heartache, works well and is reliable. I wouldn't say I use it a lot but it does get a few outings to the seaside (Cleethorpes) and usually wakes everyone up when it does so (having the absolute minimum of exhaust silencing!).

Many thanks for your time in reading this and, hopefully, posting some information if you know anything that would help me.

Good wishes .... Murray Reid. Lincolnshire Wolds. England.

Some pictures, before and after ...

Front, as acquired. Pop up lights had been removed, these four sealed beams inserted into the front profile and air scoops let in to the front hood. I didn't like this!

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Front Now. Pop ups replaced - not original I know (they are electric motored and ex Toyota MR2) but I think they look better. Two inches cut out of the air dam all round to raise the splitter to a sensible height for the road.

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Interior as acquired. Not much to go on!

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Interior Now

New Interior

Engine Bay: note the absence of the fuel tank - it's in the front.

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The seats are from a Ford Sierra Cosworth, but re-foamed thinner by about an inch and a half as the originals were to thick and brought my head too near the windscreen header. I made up the seat runners from components available here in the UK from a firm called "Carbuilders"; fortunately the floorpans had already been lowered in the seatwells - presumably to allow the driver to wear a crash helmet inside!

I am lucky to have a "friend" who in a previous "life" made the fiberglass molds for TVR Cars in Blackpool. He made the molds for the dash and centre console and did all the fiberglassing for the front end. I know that the centre console doesn't use the correct switchgear but I wanted to incorporate some additional switching (eg a manual override control for the electric radiator fan) and keep the main dash clear of extra switches. I chose to use the toggle switches instead of the DeTomaso rocking switches as they took up too much space.

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The inside finish is superb. If mine comes up half as well I would be delighted.

I have the original dash , in excellent  condition , the center console , battered and in poor condition and what I think are the original factory option recaro seats . The are a little worn , a few ciggie marks , but hell - it was the 70'S!

The carpets have been binned as no good to man or beast. I got some new replacements from Halls but was a bit disappointed that the some of the edging  trim was already coming loose when I installed them . They would replace but I have to ship back the defective bit which will cost more to ship back to the US from Aus than its worth. Very disappointing quality. Trying to have the edge  resewn properly locally.

I am tracking down  some matching fabric to  recover the seats but low on the list at the moment.

More to this interior stuff than meets the eye !

Hi (again),

I have sent a private message to you but in it I said I would post some more general stuff on the public forum. So here is some information which might be of initial use.

Probably the most important thing in your “early days” is to keep a check on the clutch pull back mechanism I had built. I say in the early days simply because the clutch and slave cylinder are new and probably not full “bedded in” yet. It is a simple job to check and adjust – only a few minutes – but worth doing as Panteras are notorious for riding to clutch as the clearance is very very fine (don't hover your foot on the clutch pedal even though it's tempting as it's a bit awkward at first to hook your foot under it with the limited clearance between the pedals.

I had this modification made specifically to counter the problem of the slave riding to clutch. You will see that the operating cylinder actually tilts down towards the rear of the car and the operating shaft can move its way forward under vibration etc when otherwise not in use. The stop mechanism I had made stops this happening as the return spring pulls the shaft back to where it should be to give proper clearance of the slave cylinder on the clutch plate.

The job is easier to do if the "luggage caddy" is unbolted and lifted out (3 bolts).

  1. Remove return spring

  2. By hand, push the operating lever towards the rear of the car ensuring the threaded stop bolt is resting against the backstop before movement occurs.

  3. There should be travel of around 3mm equating to approx 1mm of clearance at the release bearing to clutch cover.

  4. To increase the clearance undo the lock-nut and un-screw the stop screw (anti-clockwise viewed from rear) until sufficient clearance can be felt by moving the arm backwards and forwards, tighten lock nut

  5. The long stop bolt above the cylinder should need no adjustment, this is only to prevent the unlikely over pushing of the clutch cover

  6. Refit return spring

When you take the luggage caddy out you will see an Anderson socket for jump starting (I have never had to use it but it's there “just in case”. I always kept the car on trickle charge and with the electrics all isolated with the red key under the dash. The cigarette lighter in the centre console is wire direct to the battery so you can use it for trickle charging even with the “red key” out and isolated. The battery itself is on a tray in the leading edge of the drivers side rear wheel arch

I made the rear quarter light widows/vents unboltable as are the horizontal metal quarter plates between the wings and the engine bulkhead (allen key bolts into captive threads) to make it easier to access engine bay ancillaries. You shouldn't need to worry about the cooling water top up tank in the engine bay (passenger side just behind the bulkhead) as there is a second one in the front “bonnet” (drivers side between wing and pedal box fluid bottles). This is much more convenient. Just in case the electric latch for the front bonnet fails (push button under dash to tight of steering column )(it never has failed) there is a lever pull in the passenger side where the glove box should be.

The fuel tank is quite small and it does take patience to fill (bit like an Austin 7!). Fuel consumption is not as excessive as you might think (well … depends how close you right foot is to the floor) but you will still only get a range of about 130 to 150 miles. The fuel gauge is deceptive, probably because it is genuine DeTomaso and the fuel tank is not! I always used to reset the trip odometer to check my mileage between fills. Even when you top the tank the fuel gauge will only read three quarters and it will stay there for a long long while. You think “hey … this is good”. And then it will drop quite quickly. The red low fuel warning light does work but then you have to start looking for fuel with about 25 miles.

I can't think of anything else in particular at the moment but if you have questions I'll be happy to try to help subject to delays as explained in my private message to you.

So I'll sign off now and wish you Happy Days with your car. I hope you enjoy it as much as My wife and I did. It's a bit of a beast but it's also a real head turner. We had loads of interest when we were out and about – most people haven't the faintest idea what it is … “is it a Ferrari?” - “No ...they're common!”

All the best,

Murray.






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