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You guys are on but it'll be awhile.
Today is brakes that have frozen calipers.
Then a battery and bringing the engine back to life. I know zip about Ford engines but started reading a great post by George on the subject.
Getting a machine going after sitting for so long is a lot of work. Specially when you know little about it. Lots of cleaning and lubrication for starters and figuring out where things are.
The big big plus is that it's all there and never been molested.
My last project was a TR6 and it was a total mess thanks to the previous owners.
I use to have to tell some plane owners with tools to "step away from the aircraft".
Thanks guys.
...I know Money is Tight! Instead of rebuilding the Old Calipers, (I) would buy New Calipers and Rotors. Go with the New. To rebuild old, may work(how well?), but will remain Old. New...You will always be ahead of the Game! Just My Opinion. Think of how Much Time and Money the Actual Rebuild will Cost You.

...By the Way, Congratulations!! Welcome to the Party! Just Try to get that Smile Off Your Face!

P.S. About Dis-Assembly...WD-40 is Your Friend!

MJ
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Before jumping the gun, check what you have currently. This is not your everyday Ford era Pantera and the later 9000 series cars typically came with upgraded GP3 brakes that are more than capable of stopping the car and as used on the early race cars. One indicator would be if you have vented discs.

Julian
Joules, I can't indent them other than to say that they conform to the service manual.
No vented discs. Very heavy cast iron calipers with four pistons up front and two in the rear.
The linings are made by Textar with the right front having a electric wear sensor. The wire going under the pad broke off upon removal and the P/N V14316FF goes nowhere. Other than that they look stock. Very frustrating but I was hoping one of you guys would Know the make , model and P/N.
Get this, I don't think the brakes have ever come apart and been inspected. All linings look good with almost all wear on the rears.
That doesn't seem right to me.
The pistons are so frozen into the calipers that it took hours of soaking with Mouse Milk and heat to free the right rear. Right front is soaking.
It would really help if someone had info on the sensor. Service manual has no mention of it. I wish I knew who made the system then I could get some where. I'm afraid when I get the front caliper apart it may be destroyed with piston corrosion explaining why it wont come apart.The back cleaned up real well. Inop is hard on machines unless preserved.
The calipers are Girling, the wire is a simple wear indicator, virtually no one bothers with that in replacement pads.


There's a lot of historical information on this site and the search function is pretty good. There's also a sticky on brakes that is worth reading.

Also lots of other good resources online Mike Daley's site is just one example;

http://www.panteraplace.com/Page9.htm

If you area POCA member you get access to all the technical bulletins and information, plus newsletters with tech articles etc. A lot for $75 annually www.poca.com

Most folks are using the Porterfield pads in a RS4 compound I think. If ordering you need to tell them it is for a Pantera and they will weld the locating nub on the rear pad. Caliper rebuild kits are readily available from the Pantera vendors and I saw discussion someone was selling replacement pistons as well now.

Julian
Joules, You are spot on ("Girling"). Thank you. No chance of finding Textar pad with sensor ?
David, My mistake. One piston on the right rear. The service man speaks of two but fails to mention the P-brake side. Had me confused but that's easy to do.
Will post photos later and move brake posting to proper area.
Thanks again guys.
Some of the replacement pads can be found with a sensor, I think Ferodo and Bosch, I'm not familiar withe those pad compounds.

The Textar compound is not ideal for the Pantera especially with modern tires. You wanted to improve the braking so picking a compound may be more important than the sensor IMO. Are you really going to drive the Pantera 30K miles without checking pad wear?
Punky, you can- if you really need to- add the 'wear sensor' to any current brake pad. The wire from each pad is a ground such that when the pad is sufficiently worn to allow the exposed wire end to touch the rotor, the red light on your dash will illuminate. Simply drill a hole of sufficient OD to accept a wire, in the thickness of a pad to any depth that will contact the rotor, and add a little adhesive to retain the wire.

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