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Hi Tom

Reason i put pictures  of my build here is just for that ! To help other with there projects.  Always when i plan some idea i scroll thru the post here to look for some good solutions. And  the other thing , if something is not right i hope somebody tells me that!

You have to share info on forums like this to make them useful for all.

IMG-20190202-WA0000Resized_20190124_165331I had some trouble to get the tachometer to work ! I thought it was the new engine management system that talked a different language than the tach but then i gave it to a friend that is a guru on electronics to test it! and he found this!!!? But he said its no problem to fix it   It must have been a lot of smoke and smell when that happened !

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Now i got the tachometer fixed!  But the needle still did not move! So here is a clever solution i got from the guy that sold me the engine management system that i think will work on other systems to and perhaps on the Msd.

It is just a ordinary relay with a small fix! You just put it in parallel between the +12v cable and the signal cable to tach

20190221_120724   The pieces on the paper i removed from the relay other wise they move every time with the spark signal  and are noisy!

+12v cable to tach is first connected to number 86 on relay and then to tach.

Signal cable to tach is first connected to number 85 on relay and then to tach.

It is a very simple way to get an volt peak to get the tach needle to trigger!

I think the Msd box for tach is just the same in a nicer package

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Okay now this build tread has reach the end

The car is now completed and i got it registered last Friday and on Sunday me and my son was on the first road trip thru the archipelago here in western Finland!

 I have from the start with this project  tried to get the car as modern and comfortable to drive as possible and it came out better than i could expect!

My other Pantera is much more original in many ways but with much stronger engine and it is very brutal to drive but i really like it

But this new one i am going to use on all longer trips ! The brakes and overall handling and quietness inside is almost like a brand new car!

Here is picture from first trip

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Of al the customized Panteras I have seen over the years. YOURS is my favorite, everything is just stunning. Thanks for the new pic of the inset fuel filler. I was wondering how that worked!  Thank you for sharing such a great build. My hat is off to you and your team! I think I recognize the PANTERA letters from another vehicle, but  LAND ROVER or RANGE  and SILVERDAO do not have a P?  Help me unscramble these? 

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Hi

Nice that you like it! I have sold several sets of the side windows here in Europe! It is the same factory that's make the front windshields  that make this single glass side windows for me! I own the molds but they make the glass. If you like to buy them to US you need to be several or the shipping cost is to high!

They are E approved and made of hardened automotive glass just like ordinary OEM car windows





The glass fits nice in the frame, But you need to modify the door and window lift!

I used a lift motor and mechanism from a modern car that is a lot slimmer than the OEM. Because it has to fit between the glass and inner door trim when the glass is rolled down.

Kim

If we manage to get a few of us Americans organized to buy single glass window units from/through you, what might be the approximate price per set. The windows may need to be sent to more than one address depending on our addresses. I live on the wet East Coast, but the dry West Coast is infested with Panteras that may want in on the idea.

Thank you for your input.

Tom

I don't have an exact price  on the sets now at the moment! Because of resent rises on energy and material ! But i guess some where around 800€+shipping+packing cost for a set.

If you really are interested later i will ask the exact price from the factory before any orders.

I ship them in a wooden crate that is pretty  big so if i put 1 set of glass or 5 the price is more or less the same.

So it would be best to ship all to the same place!

Thank you for your response and willingness to help. I removed front windows and love the clean look, and returning it all back to stock appears quite possible. This is not a high priority for me. I’ve owned the car for 43 years and am all for making I good improvements. I will have to get a read on the Forum regarding interest by others. The price appears fair enough, but shipping to one location only may be a problem.
Tom

In an effort to find out what it takes to switch to single side windows I removed the thin shelf under the small sidelight and carefully built a corrugated plasic pattern for the proposed glass. It can be accomplished reasonably well if you don't object to a small black metal filler in the front lower corner (see attached). When lowereing the side window it sides forward at a greater angle than the visible angle of the widow frame, causing it to run into an obstruction that I don't to modify.

If any of you have knowledge of a better solutioon, please let me know. I like the look but I'm not sure if I want to proceed. My car is not in need of bodywork or new paint so major metal work is not in the cards.

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You may be correct, and I have not yet attached the plastic pattern to the lift mechanism. However, I slid the pattern down the rear track while holding it horizontal and rested it in the lowest down position. It moves forward as you indicate and just misses the box that houses the hinges. Perhaps I cheated by accident. I will attach it to the lift mechanism as soon as I form the pattern and give it the correct curve. You are doing a marvelous job with yours, so I assume you have pushed toward the front as much as possible, but you are using the left-over triangle for the mirror, something I don't want to do as my mirrors are set for now.



Thank you

OK, here is a revised analysis of my attempt to build single side glass for my Pantera. kimk was correct, my first pattern was too large and won't fit. I continued to trim the pattern until it was able to move it up and down freely when attached to the lift mechanism. I also shaved the rear edge of the pattern because the rear post and window guide angle changes once inside the door.  The front corner of the glass has to be held approximately 1-3/4" short of the corner created by the SS window trim. That empty triangle, could be filled in by a 2' deep, lined triangular black metal cup which allows the glass to slide forward as the window is lowered. My next step is to build plexiglass windows and deliberate my decisions. If that works and is to my liking, I'll look at glass. Sometimes the excitement of the moment needs time to mature into a sound decision.

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With a small amount of additional shaving, I believe I've come up with a side window glass pattern that works for a single panel of glass. currently I am using corrugated plastic that's very close to the stock glass thickness and bent it to the same curve as the glass. It's attached to the lift mechanism, and it moves up and down freely.

As shown in the image above, the small triangular opening needs to be filled with a black metal filler chanel that reaches down into the door to serve as a guide for the front edge of the glass as it drops down into the door. This channel should attach neatly to the inside of the window frame. So far, I've done nothing that's not reversable to stock.

The next step is to fabricate the same in plexiglass.   

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