Pantera #3770 - Wierd Ad on eBay

Either a scam or mixed up photos uploading. The interior is a different car, but when the cover photo shows a ridged deck lid and he says flat....scam

There are some pictures of this car on teh registry. Interesting dual sunroofs. The late dash picture is clearly wrong.

Different mirrors. Different cars in the background. Cute girls, though. I'll take them.

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Originally posted by David B:
Different mirrors. Different cars in the background. Cute girls, though. I'll take them.

Great movie Brokedown Palace. Don't remember seeing a Pantera in it though.

It's easy to mix up a pic or 2. But you know a push button or NOT.

Supposedly this is chassis 3770. Making this a June 1972 pre-L equipped with the early dual pod dash. The Bill Van Ess registry of 1994 and Chuck Melton's registry both claim it is a Euro GTS???


-G

Although it's has the flares and stickers, It's not an original euro GTS. All Euro GTS, including the first '72s had fiberglass single pod dash covered in alcantara.

As the owner of an authentic Euro GTS, I can confidently say that the car in question is not...

It has a couple of trick identifiers, euro speedo gauge, euro radio aerial, but clearly not a real Euro GTS. .

Buyer beware !

Tony

For posterity

Side View. Vitaloni California mirrors, Euro antenna, Gran Turismo front spoiler, 15x7 & 15x8 wheels. US side marker lights. Amber front turn signal lenses.

Hibachi grills to improve radiator air flow, Hall radiator cover to make the Hibachi grills ineffective!

rear view. The eBay ad claims it has a flat deck, obviously that is in error. No GTS badge either. US tail lights.

front boot

The pic of the odometer in Chuck Melton's registry showed 18,000 kilometers. (11,000 miles). I see so many cars claiming low mileage that I've become jaded regarding the believability of such claims. I could be wrong of course.


This pic from the ad on eBay with 20,000 kilometers is believable as far as it indicates 2000 kilometers have been logged since the picture at Chuck Melton's registry. Notice the speedometer is mounted in an early dual pod dash.

Also notice that although the speedometer is calibrated in Kilometers, the other gauges in the console are calibrated in American units.

This is the early style console with the trim piece surrounding the shift gate.

This pic is from the ad on eBay, showing the entire interior. Notice this interior has a late model dash. It appears to be the interior of a North American GTS (clock, steering wheel, seat covers). However notice the rear view mirror in the picture is not the same as the Vitaloni California rear view mirror in the first picture. The interior in this picture is not the interior of #3770.

FWIW response from seller;

I have 2 panteras, the pics shown, some are incorrect, from the 74 GTS for sale as well. Not advertised yet. Ebay will not allow me to show the correct photos because someone placed a bid !! This 72 GTS I bought from a senator in Ohio. 1 of 360, he flew to Modena Italy, and this is the only one in existence with custom moon roofs, and the seats are cloth. I have all Documents !

Julian

Moon roofs!! - sure hope the A/C Works.

One way to verify the story of a particular car is to email RS Corse i Modena. They have info about all panteras in their archives.

I was there a couple of weeks ago and looked my panteras up. They will answer questions about cars over mail, but if you wan't copies of the documents - you'll have to pay.

Hey Guys, just looking at this car being sold again, if an American custom order a Euro GTS with US gages/lights to get the larger engine (higher compression, suspension, brakes) that was not provided to the USA, could he been able to actually get the car delivered to the US? How would I confirm this as true or not?

Is that was truly a Euro GTS, why would it have a US Emissions Tag, and a US Metal Door plate?

Maybe I don't understand the import process from cack in '72, but that seems to raise a question in my eyes on the veracity of the Euro GTS claim - but what do I know?

See 3770 in ProvaMo.

Rocky

Thanks Rocky, The story I am getting from the original owner was that this was his second Pantera and did not want a US GTS because it was only cosmetic changes. He wanted more performance. Thus a flight to Italy and a request to take an in production std US Pantera (lights gauges, badges etc) and upgrade the engine, suspension and brakes. I see it has group four brakes, but how do I check the engine compression ratio? I am new to Pantera's any suggestions are much appreciated. Thanks again for the fast response.