(New wheels are on page 10!)
Center Line Auto Drag
15" wheels, exact width? probably 10" and 8"
tires 295/50 15 and 225/50 15
I noticed I actually prefer the more raw look of these, go figure...
Well, I´ll keep both sets
WOuld you mind posting a few more pics of the 17" Billet Specialties wheels?
Asanti Wheels
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Asantis look great, nice lip!
My wheels are ROTA GTRs and they can be bought from http://www.rotaaustralia.com.au/ . Price was AUD $1555 for all four. In the USA I am sure they are much cheaper.
The tires I bought from Albion Motorsport http://www.albionmotorsport.com.au/ and total was around $1880. Again I am sure they are much cheaper in the USA.
Fronts are 5x114.3, 17x9" with +25 offset(backspace 5.5"). Tires are Toyo Proxes R888 235x40x17.
Rears are 5x114.3, 18x12" with +20 offset (backspace 6.75"). Tires are Toyo Proxes R888 335x30x18.
My rotors and brakes are stock 72 and the body is also stock.
The fronts scrub on the inner fender well when at full lock both sides. Also has caught the right side outer fender lip and bent it out slightly. Ideally the front should be a 35 series and not the 40 series that I have which make the tires slightly more round. Apparently proxes in 235 width are not available in 35 series. Maybe going to a 225 width or a 35 series would solve the scrubbing.
For the rear wheels to fit I had to slightly bend the rear brake lines out of the way of the rim on the inner. This was easy because the brake lines were non stock and Australian compliant. I have had no issues with the rear scrubbing.
Also the centre caps that come with the wheels would not fit as the center hub was in the way. I made them myself out of 63mm exhaust pipe which I capped off with some sheet metal. It was then powder coated silver and I am currently having some T emblems printed in vinyl for the center. I also had to use a die grinder to open up the center on the wheel and then I trumpeted(peened) the inner of the center cap to keep it from coming free at speed.
After fitting the new wheels and tires I found that it sat too high and the gap in the rear tire well too large. So I ended up buying adjustable coil overs from one of the vendors. I found that the rear spring set I got are not really low enough. Another thing I don't like is that when the car is jacked up the springs do not hold in place but that's a whole other story.
The tires I bought from Albion Motorsport http://www.albionmotorsport.com.au/ and total was around $1880. Again I am sure they are much cheaper in the USA.
Fronts are 5x114.3, 17x9" with +25 offset(backspace 5.5"). Tires are Toyo Proxes R888 235x40x17.
Rears are 5x114.3, 18x12" with +20 offset (backspace 6.75"). Tires are Toyo Proxes R888 335x30x18.
My rotors and brakes are stock 72 and the body is also stock.
The fronts scrub on the inner fender well when at full lock both sides. Also has caught the right side outer fender lip and bent it out slightly. Ideally the front should be a 35 series and not the 40 series that I have which make the tires slightly more round. Apparently proxes in 235 width are not available in 35 series. Maybe going to a 225 width or a 35 series would solve the scrubbing.
For the rear wheels to fit I had to slightly bend the rear brake lines out of the way of the rim on the inner. This was easy because the brake lines were non stock and Australian compliant. I have had no issues with the rear scrubbing.
Also the centre caps that come with the wheels would not fit as the center hub was in the way. I made them myself out of 63mm exhaust pipe which I capped off with some sheet metal. It was then powder coated silver and I am currently having some T emblems printed in vinyl for the center. I also had to use a die grinder to open up the center on the wheel and then I trumpeted(peened) the inner of the center cap to keep it from coming free at speed.
After fitting the new wheels and tires I found that it sat too high and the gap in the rear tire well too large. So I ended up buying adjustable coil overs from one of the vendors. I found that the rear spring set I got are not really low enough. Another thing I don't like is that when the car is jacked up the springs do not hold in place but that's a whole other story.
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These are my wheels made by a company in CA> called "True forged" They are 3 piece wheels in polished aluminum. 18x9 front and 19x12 rear they are wearing Nitto NT-05 235x40 R18"s 9.57" wide and 335x30 ZR19 13.31" wide
Brembo 4 piston calipers coleman rotors and custom billet hats
Brembo 4 piston calipers coleman rotors and custom billet hats
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ZR1 - Those Asanti wheels really complement your car well. Thematic cohesion!
new and old
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old wheels
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Etoile 455 17"
Forgestar F14 in gunmetal
17x9 w/245's and 18x12 w/335's
17x9 w/245's and 18x12 w/335's
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Forgestar F14's will make you a custom offset wheel and supply hub centering rings. I went with 25mm offset f/r. The wheels are the least expensive option I've found to get the max tire sizes to fit on a narrow body car short of buying used. Thru Jurrian at ModBargains the wheels were $1500 and they took 4 weeks to get.
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I think they look great on your car. Very reasonable price
The Reaper (Guest)
Those look great, and the price is just as good as their looks.
On the topic of inexpensive wheels I have a couple to add to the list with the Forgestar F14 wheels. I've been looking at ET Wheels, two specific retro models, the LT-III which looks like a mini-lite, and the AC-III which looks like a Cobra wheel. I am also considering the Enkei RPF1 wheels mentioned in the forums a few months ago. They are all inexpensive, and available in sizes recommended by Pantera International. I'm planning to go with a tire combination recommended in Pantera International's tire/wheel chart attached below. I haven't purchased any wheels yet, probably not until next year, so no pics.
On the topic of inexpensive wheels I have a couple to add to the list with the Forgestar F14 wheels. I've been looking at ET Wheels, two specific retro models, the LT-III which looks like a mini-lite, and the AC-III which looks like a Cobra wheel. I am also considering the Enkei RPF1 wheels mentioned in the forums a few months ago. They are all inexpensive, and available in sizes recommended by Pantera International. I'm planning to go with a tire combination recommended in Pantera International's tire/wheel chart attached below. I haven't purchased any wheels yet, probably not until next year, so no pics.
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Mistersolo,
I like the look of your wheels - especially the rears. Nice dish look. Great price too. Almost makes me think I should buy a set and sell my current wheels to my buddy who keeps hounding me for mine.
Devin
I like the look of your wheels - especially the rears. Nice dish look. Great price too. Almost makes me think I should buy a set and sell my current wheels to my buddy who keeps hounding me for mine.
Devin
John the wheels look great. Agreed with Devin, the deep dish proportions of the rear wheels is bitchen. Good find. And I appreciate you reporting it here so others can benefit.
WOW!!!!
quote:Originally posted by mistersolo:
Forgestar F14's will make you a custom offset wheel and supply hub centering rings. I went with 25mm offset f/r. The wheels are the least expensive option I've found to get the max tire sizes to fit on a narrow body car short of buying used. Thru Jurrian at ModBargains the wheels were $1500 and they took 4 weeks to get.
I checked the Forgestar website, and could not find F14 18X12 with less than +36mm offset? (+36mm to +68mm)
Apparently Forgestar hasn't updated their sizing page for the F14's.
A seller of the F14's stated that the Super Deep Concave F14 is available in 18" fitments.
Available in:
18x9.5
18x10
18x11
18x12
Offset ranges are pretty similar to the 19" fitments.
A seller of the F14's stated that the Super Deep Concave F14 is available in 18" fitments.
Available in:
18x9.5
18x10
18x11
18x12
Offset ranges are pretty similar to the 19" fitments.
wheels
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another view
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those are sweet - what are they? really look nice
quote:Originally posted by Panterapatt:
those are sweet - what are they? really look nice
I BELIEVE THEY ARE FROM PS ENGINEERING.
http://psvintagewheels.com/products.html
Yep, Augustaboy is right. Got them from Vintage wheels. I always liked the look of the GT-40 wheels from the 1960's. So I wanted the exact replica wheels to put on my GT5-S. The design of the original GT-40 Wheels were 15" diameter. The wheels I ordered were 18" wheels. As the diameter enlarges the wheel pattern gets distorted, and I had to learn that lesson the hard way. I was extremely disappointed when my wheels arrived because that is not at all what I wanted. I still don't understand why they can't keep the same wheel pattern even on a larger diameter wheel. But it's done now, so I need to live with it. However, once the wheels got put on the car they didn't look so bad. Now I actually like the look.
David
David
they look very nice. I thought PS shut down operations. Is Phil still making wheels?
My friend ordered the wheels for me a couple of years ago. The car has just finished a full restoration. That would be a shame if they shut down there operation. I did not know anything about that.
hot wheels
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Budnick, "Tillers"
quote:Originally posted by pantera74Bills6976:
hot wheels
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Just an update regarding the Billet Specialties Street Lite wheels I got some time ago. I wasn´t completely satisfied at first with how they came out on the car. Couldn´t really put my finger on it. A very expensive experiment! Anyway, gave it some thought and realised the setup needed much lower profile front tires, for aesthetic purposes These are 225 35 17 (not easy to find, it turned out)(rear 335 35 17). Now I suddenly love the look
Wheels are 17x11 and 17x8 with 6 and 5" of backspacing respectively.
Wheels are 17x11 and 17x8 with 6 and 5" of backspacing respectively.
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They look great ! I like them ! - Jim
quote:Originally posted by Piney:
Now I suddenly love the look
Yup. Sweet indeed. They look great and the stance looks perfect! Congrats!
Mark
Thanks guys! And now it´s back to the reality of Pantera ownership, checked the overflow tank coolant level - empty! Ok, fill her up, and out on the floor comes the coolant... Bottom is completely rusted out.
quote:Originally posted by Piney:
checked the overflow tank coolant level - empty! Ok, fill her up, and out on the floor comes the coolant... Bottom is completely rusted out.
Well, on the bright side, the "overflow" function is working perfectly! Time for some new polished stainless tanks.
Mark
quote:the "overflow" function is working perfectly
Haha
mike the snake (Guest)
I'm liking the look of this car (third post down on page 7 of this thread). I like the (seemingly 20" rear wheels) with 16 or 17" fronts. I'm flareless as well, and this car looks pretty "hot rod" with the big wheel stagger.
Presently I have PI wheels, 17x8 front and 17x12 rear with 335 rear tires.
I have enough clearance between the tire and fenderwell that I don't think I'd need to cut on my body to add flares, or run a wider offset combo that stuck out past the body.
Adding flares is a consideration (fiberglass, riveted flares).
I just know I want more stagger, and as wide of a tire as I can get for the rear.
Trying for a different look.
Just throwing ideas out there, willing to trade my PI wheels and tires (perfect condition) for something different possibly.
I'm going to be doing my decklid and rear cover in satin black like on this car.
Also not opposed to lowering the car a tad more too.
Presently I have PI wheels, 17x8 front and 17x12 rear with 335 rear tires.
I have enough clearance between the tire and fenderwell that I don't think I'd need to cut on my body to add flares, or run a wider offset combo that stuck out past the body.
Adding flares is a consideration (fiberglass, riveted flares).
I just know I want more stagger, and as wide of a tire as I can get for the rear.
Trying for a different look.
Just throwing ideas out there, willing to trade my PI wheels and tires (perfect condition) for something different possibly.
I'm going to be doing my decklid and rear cover in satin black like on this car.
Also not opposed to lowering the car a tad more too.
quote:Originally posted by LF - TP 2511:quote:Weld Stars, I think.
Ugly, I think.
mike the snake (Guest)
Do you think I could find these wheels in the sizes I need?
'm wanting to increase "wheel rake" by going 18" or 19" in the rear and 17" in the front.
Non flared car, not sure about offsets, I need to research that, but I'd love to run the old-style BBS 3 piece wheels I had on my porsche
'm wanting to increase "wheel rake" by going 18" or 19" in the rear and 17" in the front.
Non flared car, not sure about offsets, I need to research that, but I'd love to run the old-style BBS 3 piece wheels I had on my porsche
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mike the snake (Guest)
I've found some Forgestar wheels that look really nice.
While I'm there, I'll probably go for their single nut hub conversion too. That's always been a dream of mine, to have single nuts lol.
While I'm there, I'll probably go for their single nut hub conversion too. That's always been a dream of mine, to have single nuts lol.
...Page 7, 3rd Post, those look like 'Weld Racing' 'Alumi-Star II', Or Very Similar. I think the Stance is 'Spot-On Gorgeous'!! I have the 'Original' Alumi-Stars in the Rear, but not quit That Much...It's Called a RAKE!!
And just FYI...If the Rear should be lower than the Front..That's called a 'Power Dump'!
Look at the Pantera Race Cars in Europe!
That's How they RACE them, HUGE Tires In Back...tiny in the Front! And the Wheels are kept Small, so the Tire 'Wall' Remains High/Large.
They Know Something MOST of You Don't!!
Such as...BIG DIAMETER Wheels and Low Sidewall Tires, don't 'Forgive' very well, nor absorb shock, along with a Dozen Other factors. Why do You think They DON'T use that set-up in NASCAR Racing??!!
But if your just going for Showing-off, then Skies the limit!
...But, I Know!!"...What 'I' Think, Means Nuts!"
And just FYI...If the Rear should be lower than the Front..That's called a 'Power Dump'!
Look at the Pantera Race Cars in Europe!
That's How they RACE them, HUGE Tires In Back...tiny in the Front! And the Wheels are kept Small, so the Tire 'Wall' Remains High/Large.
They Know Something MOST of You Don't!!
Such as...BIG DIAMETER Wheels and Low Sidewall Tires, don't 'Forgive' very well, nor absorb shock, along with a Dozen Other factors. Why do You think They DON'T use that set-up in NASCAR Racing??!!
But if your just going for Showing-off, then Skies the limit!
...But, I Know!!"...What 'I' Think, Means Nuts!"
quote:Originally posted by mike the snake:
Do you think I could find these wheels in the sizes I need?
...
Contact HRE wheels and they will be happy to build you a set of wheels to your specifications.
http://www.hrewheels.com/wheels/classic-series/300
mike the snake (Guest)
That pic is of the rear wheel off my Porsche race car, 18x13 with very low profile, and it was insanely fast. Set some records at Sears Point and Thunderhill back in the day under the PO's owner and drivership.
I do know what you mean though, low pro isn't always the best handling. Look at F1 cars!
My car is mainly for looks and maybe track days, so I'm going for the right look, and then going to get what I get on track.
I'm still going to run the same "cheater slicks" that I'm already running in 335x35x17.
I just want to go 345x30x18 or 19 in the rear, with no outer tire diameter change.
I saw some vids of HRE wheels, 10G's for a wheelset is a bit steep for me.
I'm hoping there's something out there that's reasonable.
I do know what you mean though, low pro isn't always the best handling. Look at F1 cars!
My car is mainly for looks and maybe track days, so I'm going for the right look, and then going to get what I get on track.
I'm still going to run the same "cheater slicks" that I'm already running in 335x35x17.
I just want to go 345x30x18 or 19 in the rear, with no outer tire diameter change.
I saw some vids of HRE wheels, 10G's for a wheelset is a bit steep for me.
I'm hoping there's something out there that's reasonable.
Look at CCW wheels.
Maybe check Team 3 Wheels in San Leandro Calif.
I have a set of there AC-III wheels. 17s/18s.
Well under 10k and they can make the back spacing what ever you what.
I have a set of there AC-III wheels. 17s/18s.
Well under 10k and they can make the back spacing what ever you what.
Kinesis
For example from a vendor in Colorado...
For example from a vendor in Colorado...
old wheels
new wheels
new wheels
Nice! The new wheels suit the car much better, IMHO.
Mark
Mark
Mark,
Not a great image of the Boyd Coddington wheels - the Michelins still have good tread but I need new dates to run ORR . . . always wanted the 200s wheels, but they are heavy!
Not a great image of the Boyd Coddington wheels - the Michelins still have good tread but I need new dates to run ORR . . . always wanted the 200s wheels, but they are heavy!
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Truly nice wheels, excellent to have this as an option.
Here's another link: Foose Wheels - Pantera
Looks like a work in progress. Hopefully color options & size options will be forthcoming. Since its a 3 piece wheel just about anything should be possible.
I may consider them for 6018. The decision is ... 17 front/19 rear, 18 front/19 rear, or 18 front/20 rear. The 18/20 set I previously had on 6018 sure looked good.
Here's another link: Foose Wheels - Pantera
Looks like a work in progress. Hopefully color options & size options will be forthcoming. Since its a 3 piece wheel just about anything should be possible.
I may consider them for 6018. The decision is ... 17 front/19 rear, 18 front/19 rear, or 18 front/20 rear. The 18/20 set I previously had on 6018 sure looked good.
The foose wheels look nice, but the gaps in the centre to outer, tell me that will trap dirt.
I know you are not supposed to let your Pantera dirty, but if dirty water gets in there, it can leave a line and show up.
I know you are not supposed to let your Pantera dirty, but if dirty water gets in there, it can leave a line and show up.
quote:The decision is ... 17 front/19 rear, 18 front/19 rear, or 18 front/20 rear.
While I assume in this day and age it poses only a minor change to a CNC program, Chip's car had 18" front wheels and 19" rear wheels, no 17" or 20".
I've already contacted MHT wheels about this and hope to hear from them soon.
Larry
I found these on the boyd site.
http://www.boydcoddingtonusa.c...large/campi-1000.jpg http://www.boydcoddingtonusa.c...large/campi-1000.jpg
http://www.boydcoddingtonusa.c...large/campi-1000.jpg http://www.boydcoddingtonusa.c...large/campi-1000.jpg
quote:
Originally posted by LF - TP 2511:
While I assume in this day and age it poses only a minor change to a CNC program ...
Correct, especially with 3 piece wheels.
quote:
Originally posted by LF - TP 2511:
... I've already contacted MHT wheels about this and hope to hear from them soon ...
That's groovy that you did that Larry. Thank You. Please post what you find out. I for one am interested.
Ron, those wheels look great. I like the way you matched the color of the centers to the color of the DeTomaso script on the rocker panels. What sizes of wheels and tires did you use?
Ron,
Those wheels look great on that GTS. What diameter and width are they?
Devin
Those wheels look great on that GTS. What diameter and width are they?
Devin
The rear wheels are 17"X 12" with 315/35 Nitto NT05 tires and the fronts are 17" X 8.5" with 235/40 NT05s.
Ron
Ron
Up date!
quote:Originally posted by Husker:
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My personal favorite aftermarket wheels for the Pantera are Halibrand style.
http://www.factoryfive.com/wha...ibrand-style-wheels/
I see Factory Five has 18" wheels that I think would look really nice. Based on George's guidance in Stick #8 it looks like they would fit. They may require 1/4" spacers as the offsets are more than what is recommended.
Front: 18x9 w/6" backspace (24mm Offset)
Rear: 18x11 w/6.46" backspace (12mm Offset)
Wheel Lug Pattern: Ford style 5 lug x 4.5" bolt circle
Factory Five recommends 255/35/18 front and 315/30/18 rear tires for their roadster application. I think 245/35/18 front and 285/40/18 might work better for the Pantera to get that 2" diameter difference George talks about.
http://www.factoryfive.com/wha...ibrand-style-wheels/
I see Factory Five has 18" wheels that I think would look really nice. Based on George's guidance in Stick #8 it looks like they would fit. They may require 1/4" spacers as the offsets are more than what is recommended.
Front: 18x9 w/6" backspace (24mm Offset)
Rear: 18x11 w/6.46" backspace (12mm Offset)
Wheel Lug Pattern: Ford style 5 lug x 4.5" bolt circle
Factory Five recommends 255/35/18 front and 315/30/18 rear tires for their roadster application. I think 245/35/18 front and 285/40/18 might work better for the Pantera to get that 2" diameter difference George talks about.
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Advan GT Wheels: 1 piece forged - VERY light weight.
18" x 9.0" - 25mm offset
19" x 10-1/2" - 15mm offset
The Pantera in the photo has outboard mounted brake hats, so the effective offsets are 19mm and 9mm.
Tires: 225/40-18 front / 285/40-19 rear
Wheels are available from Mackin Industries in Southern California
18" x 9.0" - 25mm offset
19" x 10-1/2" - 15mm offset
The Pantera in the photo has outboard mounted brake hats, so the effective offsets are 19mm and 9mm.
Tires: 225/40-18 front / 285/40-19 rear
Wheels are available from Mackin Industries in Southern California
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Hi
285/40R15 Cinturato P7 tyres are available again on here https://www.longstonetyres.co....li-cinturato/p7.html
Cheers
285/40R15 Cinturato P7 tyres are available again on here https://www.longstonetyres.co....li-cinturato/p7.html
Cheers
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quote:My personal favorite aftermarket wheels for the Pantera are Halibrand style.
Here's Ron McCall's Pantera with Halibrand style wheels...
And a yellow 73...
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