Tires for OEM 15 inch wheels

The Speed Rating of the Sportsman S/R is H.

I didn't find it on Mickey Thompson's website but that's what Summit Racing says.............????? !!!!!! 

And even H,  it's only 130MPH .

But these are interesting dimensions and they're not very expensive.

https://www.longstonetyres.co....li-cinturato-p7.html

 

back  in  stock

 

In the US go to these guys https://www.lucasclassictires....RATO-P7-2854015p.htm

Is there any hope that Pirelli will ever make the much needed 285-50-VR15 P7's that we have been waiting for?  I never hear any mention of it now.

Pirelli has (or had) a 'Special Projects' tire building shop in Izmir (eastern Turkey) where limited market tires have been built for decades. Problem is, I understand that's also the tire shop where all the F-1 and other pro racing tires are built. Guess which takes precedence during the racing season? Nevertheless, a few such tires do trickle out- to be instantly grabbed by Euro dealers who have standing (paid-for) orders.

That's what happened up to about 2015, anyway. You need to talk to someone in the know located in Europe about today's situation. The Swedish Pantera Owners Club has gotten hold of a few dozen tires that way in the past, but the market is limited for 285-50x15 for 10" Campy rears and a few other brands of street cars. While the smaller OD 285-40 x 15s are used for Countache, Porsche & wide-body Pantera fronts; much bigger market. My info is dated- the last tires I got thru the Swedish Club was early '90s and that was a group buy with the European Lambo Owners Club. Good luck-

That would leave only the AVON's if you wish to use 15" wheels, and the 17" tire selection is not good either.

Thanks for the information.

I was just e-mailing with Dougal (Longstone tyres) about that Pirelli 285 / 50 R 15 tyre. He said, that he has a list of people waiting for that tyre, but that list is unfortunately a very short list. He also said, that he should be meeting some Pirelli people in October and they should be discussing the production of new sizes. So maybe, if you are interested in that size, it just might be good to add your name on that list before that meeting. I have been on that list for a long time, but I doubt that my interest for one set means very much for Pirelli... dougal@longstonetyres.co.uk 

 

Hi.

Are there anybody who have experience with AVON CR6ZZ tires.

215-60-15 on 7inch rims and 245-60-15 on 8inch rims.

Or anybody who know other Brand in this size . in VR or higher

Kjeld, I‘m also invested in this tire combination. The Avons are track tires, but still street legal. They have about 5mm of useful tread depth and are made with a soft compound, meaning relatively rapid wear with outstanding traction, but will also pick-up small stones and shoot them to rear of the car. Avons are used by the Cobra colleagues and you will find plenty of interesting threads in their forums. Alternatives are Pirelli P12 in 255/60/VR15 and Pirelli P6000 in 205/60/VR15.

I don't but a bunch of Shelby and Cobra guys are using them. There is a guy in LA who will actually convert them into Goodyear raised white letter tires for you. They look like vintage Goodyear race tires and perform like that also.
I've heard that about throwing stones since the compound is soft and stick to everything.

I know one 66 owner that says he gets over 10,000 miles on them but I'd expect less. I was getting about 3,500 out of W rated on my SHO.


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Kjeld, I used the Avon 215-60-15 but used 275-55-15 for the rear as they are closer to the exact measurments of the original Arriva tires. They look and fit perfect and the only issue was they are very sticky rubber which does throw up a lot of stones and debris depending on the road conditions.

Here is a link with photos of the tires on a car that I sold at RM a while ago.

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auct...era-l-by-ghia/545607

Good luck, Glenn

Actually 255/60's more approximate the original Arriva's. 275's cause the side walls on an 8" wheel to be sunken in. I just put 275's on 10" wheels and the side walls are nice and full.

thanks for the input.

215-60-15 is really close to the height (- 0,16%) of the original 185-70-15.

I think 215 is right with on an 7 inch. 185 is to small.

245-60-15 also close to the height (-1,03%) of the original 215-70-15.

I think 245 is the right with on an 8 inch. 215 is to small.

The only problem is that the only match tires i can find in this dimention is AVON and they are so expensive. 

Kjeld

 

Kjeld, I‘ve spent many hours searching for tires. The Avons are the best compromise. The cheapest I have found are at MOR in Munich. Would be interesting to seek out the number of potential buyers from the Pantera and Cobra communities for a more streetable version of the CR6ZZ tire and approach Avon with this information. If the demand (money) is there, they might just do it.

300km/h rating for the new Pirelli P7 is exactly what we needed!

Now we have yet another modern, high speed 15” choice.

Fingers crossed that they are lighter than the 345mm P Zero.

It is a great time to be on stock wheels...

EDIT- looks like the new P7 is 3lbs lighter than the P Zero in the 345mm size. Bravo!

 

 

Hi

OK i have 2 important points for you.  one, i have some news for you that should help you help yourselves, and 2 i woud like your help.

1. If you are going to be wanting to buy the wide body set up (285/40YR15 & 345/35ZR15 P7). then can i suggest doing it now. The price is going to go up. Soon. https://www.longstonetyres.co....-tomaso/pantera.html my guess is the prices will be going up in the next few weeks.
2. This is the exciting one for a lot of you (i hope). i have heard back from Pirelli, who have said - "Dougal, we are now ready to order the 285/50-15 P7 mould and whilst checking some details regarding top speed, weight etc. all the data I found refers to the front tyre size as 285/40-15, can you refresh me as to the documentary evidence that 285/50-15 is correct ?"

I hope you guys are serious about these tyres. I am putting my reputation on the line with Pirelli. They are not convinced it is the right thing to do. I have comitted and said it will work, and put in the order needed. i will be up to it up to the eyeballs in it, as they say. My hope is that you guys will buy them.

Anyway any actual pictorial evidence (like a picture of a Pantera build sheet or sales brochure listing 285/50R15 P7) that i can send to them will be great. (Or stuff like this off a 308 Ferrari)

Hi, Dougal

I just sent you an e-mail containing a picture from a Pantera GTS sales brochure from 1977 or 1978. It´s even in Italian, so those Pirelli people can easily enjoy about it.

 

...and trying to put it here also.

Epic, we're on.

After i posted on here i found this fitment guide.

Amusingly the chap i deal with, within Pirelli, when he was a young man, he actually compiled this fitment guide back in 1980. 

Anyway I have backed that up with picture from Kimmosch, and we have the green light.

 

I have always said this project will take a long time, and it already has. Pirelli are on the case. i cannot garuntee any dates as yet. In fact i make a habit of not garunteeing a tyre untill i actually have it in front of me. However pirelli have been excellent in my dealings with them.

I hope i am right in saying that the people who have been buying the

https://www.longstonegomme.it/...li-cinturato-p7.html

&

https://www.longstonegomme.it/...li-cinturato-p7.html

Will back me up as to how good the quality is. The Countach Fraternity have been over the moon with them, as have the Porsche boys. I will try to keep the price as sensible as possible. However i stand by my earlier recomendation to buy P7 tyres now if you need them.

Great news Dougal. I have the 225/50/15 P7 from you on the front and am very happy. Really looking forward to having the 285/50/15 for the rear to match.

Cheers, Tim.