Originally posted by JTpantera:
Lyall, I am leaning toward Grabber Blue paint on my Pantera. Could you send me additional photos of your Pantera from different angles. Looks great. Feel free to send direct jtaphorn@kingwoodcable.com. Thanks, John

I grew up around a yellow and orange Pantera. When I first saw the blue Pantera I wasn't too keen on it. Since then I've come to really like and appreciate this classic and rare color on the Pantera. Marti report shows it's 1 of 78 in Blue out of 1258 produced in 1973.

Lots of pictures on Provamo too. I'll email you some hi-res in the sun pictures.

Originally posted by tajon:
Mine was blue. A previous owner painted it the best color.

I hear you Tajon and concure... My Wells Cargo racing trailer is black to match my Porsche 944 race car which matches my black Quigly 4x4 E350 tow rig. And, the Pantera sits next to my black 930 Turbo Big Grin

Hi All,

I finally have to upgrade the old 15" wheels on my Pantera (hard to get rubber - plus one of the wheels is leaking). I'm most interested in Chip Fooses's new Pantera wheel design, with the gold center to highlight my car's green paint.

Foose has now changed the tire recommendation for their 18x8"/19x11" wheels. They now recommend 225/40-18 and 285/35-19 for "a better fitment".

Does anyone know the specifics as to why they changed their recommendations?

Craig Cline



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My guess (and that is all it is) is due to tight tolerances and fitment/rubbing issues.

Although I did not go with the Foose wheel I did go with the size he ran on his car - 18x9 & 19x11 wheels wrapped in 245/35/18 & 325/30/19 tires.

I fought getting the correct offset on the front wheels due to rubbing at full scrub and eventually fabricated a new windshield wiper motor cover under the passenger front wheel due to tolerance issues. I initially thought I may have to roll the front fender farther forward (towards the nose) but ended up not having to after getting the correct offset. The factory roll on the front fender sufficed.

With the rear wheels I had to roll the fenders a bit to get the tires not to rub.

From an online tire size calculator it appears that the difference in Foose's tire size (on his red show car) on the front tires is 9.6" versus 8.9"(his new recommendation). Likewise, the rear tires went from 12.8" wide to 11.2".

By the way, I ended up buying a tool that allowed me measure the offset needed for the actual tire I was planning on running. I mounted the tire on the tool, adjusted the offset, mounted the tool and tire to the car hub, and ran the suspension and/or steering through its paces...adjusting the offset until I found that sweet spot. Then there was no guess work involved.

Just my two cents....or maybe the other tires are easier to get???




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Devin have you ever posted a picture of your new tire/wheel combo? I don't remember seeing one. Of course I don't remember much of anything any more.

I remember you writing you had chosen 12mm for the rear offset, I think you were going to use 16mm in the front, is that right?

How about a pic?

I did not post any pics. I'll try and get a picture when I make it to my shop.

I think my car is getting lonely as I have hardly done any work on her in the last year. It's crazy how life's other obligations seem to push our "passions" to the back of the line.

I will also look up what offset I ended up going with... my memory is failing as my kids quickly approach their teenage years.

Thanks for the bump on the pictures...that is something I should have done some time ago.


The information I researched last year showed that Foose was running 18x9 in the front.

Likewise, another member mentioned 18x9 for the front wheel in the following thread Foose Pantera Link

He also mentioned that his buddy worked at Foose Design that gave him the information in the thread.

I hope this helps. I will dig up the information and price on the offset tool later this evening. I recall it was rather pricey.


Here are the specs for the Forgeline Motorsport wheels that were built for my car.

Front Wheels
18” X 9”
Offset 19.05 mm
Back spacing 5.75
62 mm center bore

Rear Wheels
19” X 11”
Offset 12.7 mm
Back spacing 6.5
62 mm center bore

I did not have a chance to run to my shop today but I found these pictures on my phone this evening. The photos with the tires mounted don't have the center caps mounted - sorry.



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I bought the backspace/offset tool from www.thewheelfit.com. The model I purchased is the Wheel Fit Pro 45 and it retails for $399.00.

If memory serves me correct I found some discount code or mentioned some advertisement and received a promotional price of somewhere around $360 when I ordered it.

If you need any further information please let me know.


P.S. I just did the backspace conversion math on the Foose Design offset for his rear wheel at 6mm and came up with a backspacing of 6.24 inches. I also did the math on his front wheels (based on the 18x8 wheel) and came up with the same offset of 19mm. What does this mean – I have no idea but I just thought I would see if their math matched my math calculations.
Thanks for posting the pictures Devin, the car looks good!

From the angles & lighting the tires appear to be recessed within the fenders about the same.

But by my calculations the rear tires should be flush and the front tires should be recessed about 3/4".

Which is it, recessed the same or the fronts recessed more than the rears? Thanks!

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