Wanted*17" or 18" wheels for Wide body GT5

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Originally posted by hawaii:
Wanted*17"x10 17x13 or 18"x13rear wheels for Wide body GT5 clone conversion. Could use tires too.
Emery@hawaii.rr.com
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Emery

I have 17" Hall Ultras that I was going to seel this fall. They have Dunlop 8000 sports mounted on them. They are knock off hub, hub cap.

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Could you email me at emery@hawaii.rr.com with the specs/sizewidths and price.
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Emery

I wanted you to know I didn't forget about you. I am having trouble with my wireless router at home. I will try to get the information to you as soon as possible. Thanks for your patience.

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Originally posted by hawaii:
Wanted*17"x10 17x13 or 18"x13rear wheels for Wide body GT5 clone conversion. Could use tires too.
Emery@hawaii.rr.com
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Emery

Make sure the offsets are for a flared car.

Emery, I don't believe you can fit the 13" wheels without flares.

Steve

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Originally posted by gandalfthegray:
Emery, I don't believe you can fit the 13" wheels without flares.

Steve

Yep but he has got them. He boght a GR4. BTW, that is why I am selling them. I raised the car two inches and they still occasionaly rub.

Detom, I thought that the flare of GT4 are the same as the GT5? The difference being the front spoiler, rockers and delta wing?

My GT5 clone has a much wider flare than Emery's red car. Unless perhaps he emailed the wrong photo.

What are Hall Ultra wheels anyway?

Steve

Actually the GT-5 flares are a bit narrower than the ones on a GT-4. I think Detom's car has the GTS flares which are considerably narrower than GT-4 or 5 flares.

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Originally posted by gandalfthegray:
Detom, I thought that the flare of GT4 are the same as the GT5? The difference being the front spoiler, rockers and delta wing?

My GT5 clone has a much wider flare than Emery's red car. Unless perhaps he emailed the wrong photo.

What are Hall Ultra wheels anyway?

Steve

The GT-4 was the lemans race car and had steam roller tires under her. The Hall Ultras are Wheels they made for what they called the Ulta-Pantera. It was a car that they would upgrade like crazy for about a hundred grand. If you ever can find one of the twenty they built, grab on to that puppy. They were awesome cars.
But anyway, they had campy make them I think, they are like two wheels bolted together. These have knock off hub caps that are held on by lug nuts. It is kinda complicated to explain so I will post a pic of my car with these wheels on it.

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Originally posted by JK:
Actually the GT-5 flares are a bit narrower than the ones on a GT-4. I think Detom's car has the GTS flares which are considerably narrower than GT-4 or 5 flares.

Right you are JK. I am getting a little tired of wondering everytime I approach a bridge weather or not my tires will rub if I go over it. Plus my car doesn't handle nearly as well as it used to cause it is jacked up in the air like that. I want to lower her back down again like in the old days. I want to go retro.

Just to clarify things. I have a stock 74 Pantera body at the moment and I am converting this car to a GT-5 style clone body.
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Emery

Detom
What's the size of the Ultras in width and tire sizes? Centers painted black?
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Emery

Well that is whyyou need the aluminum billet spacers that come with it. The tires won't rub on your car because it is an american speccar. If you use the spacers. Thye rims are blacked out in a star pattern in the middle yes, they are also slotted like our campies. The specs are Front are Dunlop SP Sport 8000 radials, 245 / 40 ZR17 and the rears are 335 / 35 ZR 17. Now they do have scuffs and scraps in the sidewall near the tread as they have scrapped my fenders. They have about 4000 miles total on them and have lots of tread, but like I said they are scuffed so you may want to replace them after you get your body kit to win car shows with. I paid almost six grand for this set up new back in 97, but I am only looking to get something around three for them.
Kids at car shows love them and the wing, but now I am more interested in what I think and not kids. I just want to drive my car and not worry about being cool anymore. But that is my problem and sorry to bore you with it. You still interested??

With only 4000 miles on the tires, it would be a shame to throw them away. Why don't you just demount them from the rims, and swap the tires to the opposite rim. This way, the sidewall that was out will now be in. If the tires are not directional, you could just turn each one around on its rim.

Michael

Whats the widths of the wheels De tom?

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Originally posted by Cyboman:
With only 4000 miles on the tires, it would be a shame to throw them away. Why don't you just demount them from the rims, and swap the tires to the opposite rim. This way, the sidewall that was out will now be in. If the tires are not directional, you could just turn each one around on its rim.

Michael

Because I wasn't smart enough to think of that myself. It is funny because my wife said the same thing you just did last night. I was planning on taking them off this fall anyway weather or not I sell them. People do love the super wide tires. They comment on them constantly. I may just save them and only put them on for car shows.

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Originally posted by hawaii:
Whats the widths of the wheels De tom?

Without taking the tires off the rims I don't really know for sure. They are what is recommended though because I bought them as a matched set. They are two piece rims. If you have a Hall Pantera catalog you can look them up in that. I am not sure if they still make them or not. Heck for all I know you can get them cheaper brand new. Have you checked out their offerings yet?? I know a lot of people don't like their stuff but I think everything I have ever gotten from them has been top notch quality.

Hall does not make the wheels anymore so it you bend one you are out of luck. So you paid Hall over $1100 per wheel?????????
I'll trade you my 17" Cobra 5 spokes in chrome for them. Send me your email address and I can send some pics to you. The file is too large for this forum. Unless someone knows how to reduce the size of a picture on CD.

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Originally posted by hawaii:
Hall does not make the wheels anymore so it you bend one you are out of luck. So you paid Hall over $1100 per wheel?????????
I'll trade you my 17" Cobra 5 spokes in chrome for them. Send me your email address and I can send some pics to you. The file is too large for this forum. Unless someone knows how to reduce the size of a picture on CD.

It appears we have a misunderstanding. I paid Hall $2900 plus shipping and handling for just the wheels. There was other hardware like the hubs and spacers that were additional.The tires were expensive because back then there wasn't a lot of 17" anything out there. It was not my intention to have you believe I am somehow trying to rip you off in some way. I misunderstodd that you had a group four car that would readily accept these wheels. My bad. But I found your response somewhat surprising. Let us just agree to dissagree. No need for insults here. I wish you luck in your endevors of finding what you are after.

Hey Detom,
Sorry if you thought I was slamming you. That was not my intent at all...only trying to get clarifications, after doing the math. $6000 (even for Hall) seemed a little high for wheels and tires to me and I wanted to make sure it wasn't a typo or something. It wasn't an insult at all on my part...sorry if it appeared to be. No need for insults here on the board, I agree.
Your car has "GTS" flares correct..not GT-5 flares or Group 4 flares?
I'm looking for 13x17 (or 18") and 10x17 and don't think they are that wide on your car, if you are running spacers too. Is that correct?
Sorry for the misunderstanding again
Warm Aloha
Emery

I have a europeon GTS and the flares are fiberglass on my car so they may be a little wider, but am not certain. Thirteens on the rear are enough to stick out beyond the flare lip even on my car. But actually the fronts are what rub the most. The wheels I am using mandated the two inch thick billet aluminum spacers and they still rub when I hit a bridge abuttment/expansion joint at speed. These size tires are meant for really wide flairs like the GT5 and Group four cars. You could run them on the car but it will be a pain. Of course they look awesome, but how much are you willing to put up with for appearances?? The car doesn't handle as well sitting up that high. You get good traction but if you are only running 300-400 horse it is definite overkill.
Yeah I probably paid too much for the setup but back when I bought it I wanted the absolute best money could buy. It looks great and I get a lot of compliments and all, but as I get older it means less to me what others think and more to me what I think. And right now I want to lower the car. Lower it to the ground. Maybe enogh so that I have to avoid running over snails for fear of high centering the car. Maybe put roller skate wheels on the floor pans???
If you really are planning on putting GT4 or GT5 type flair on, this is the kind of wheel and tire meant for it. But if you want to leave it the way it is and just have wide meats, I think you will be dissapointed.
Well just think it over and shop around. I wasn't going to try and sell them untill later this fall anyway and if I have no luck selling them I have a place in my garage were they can just sit there and be fine. I may even put them on again someday just for car shows. Heck someday I might even get a group four who knows?
Let me know how it is going and keep in touch.
Detom