quote:Originally posted by pantera874:
...Current production does not mean new technology. Maybe it's new for you, but internal of those engines is more than 40 years old technology...
What technology are you refering to, and what production engine provides more modern technology?
quote:Originally posted by Johnny Woods:
...I have yet to hear a mod engine that makes a good sound ...For me the Pantera is all about looks, power and sound. I would never even consider a mod engine...And what about weight saving? is there a weight saving to be had over a Cleveland by going to a 4.6 (iron block?) or a 5.4 ally block...
Johnny, I would think an exhaust can be designed to sound any way a designer wishes. Production cars must meet ever more restrictive national maximum sound volume standards. So it may not be fair to compare the sound of the unmodified exhaust of any modern car to the modified exhaust of a Pantera. It is true however that the modular motor was designed with better water jacketing wich reduces noise coming from the engine block.
quote:Originally posted by DeTom:
...What?? Are you serious?? Ford is going back to the push rod?? Oh they will screw this up somehow. ...
Ford is being hush hush about the architecture of the motor, but one story I read a while back specifically stated the motor would retain over head cams and 3 or 4 valves per cylinder.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel_Jones:
...I'm no fan of the mod motor and apparently I'm not alone. Ford has revived the Hurricane program to introduce a new V8 to compete with GM's LS-series and Daimler-Chrysler's Hemi...
Ford has produced both a 351 cubic inch V10 and a 427 V10 based on the mod motor. But for some reason they seem reluctant to put them into production. I'm guessing its the cost. It seems they want to build a larger displacement V8, and hence the new motor program. The impetus for a new motor is all about cubic inches, and not about any deficiencies in the design of the modular motor, don't be surprised if the new motor is nothing more than a bigger mod motor.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel_Jones:
...You can still buy all the parts you want for a flathead Ford V8...I have nothing against DOHC engines. The package particularly well on
an inline engine. On a vee engine pushrods make a lighter, more compact, less expensive package...
You can still purchase parts for a flat head, but you have never been able to buy the proper thermostat for a Cleveland. LOL...
Overhead cam engines have two advantages, one in the RPM limit of the valve train, and the second in the freedom to design ideal intake & exhaust port architecture. I think this remains true today, although the limits of both architectures is higher today than in decades past, and I would not argue with you Dan that an OHV design can be made to rev plenty for a street car, and make good bhp numbers too.
Oh, and by the way, the 4.6 was used in a front wheel drive car, the Lincoln Continental.
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