Thanks for the information Joules5 and DOES 200. I sent an e-mail to the address supplied by and will now try E-bay with your advice Joules5. I have been jonesin for a group 4 for a few years and this one finally showed up. I could not stick around for the auction and never was able to contact Randall9719 post auction. If this does not work, I want to thank you both for taking time to provide me an option. Cheers-David Wessel
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