quote:Originally posted by goodroc:
Guys forgive me but is this Thread getting very academic?
I have the EZ
I did install it my self
I did modify the console slightly
It is reliable so far 10000+ km
I did post photos and comments in various threads
I can't find anything negative to say (I do actually own and drive a car with the said EZ power steering installed)
My advise is:
If you want Power steering, the EZ is a very good option. Buy the kit, install it....... end of story!
BTW I am not a heavy poster on the forum, so perhaps I am not so qualified to give my opinion.
Happy Easter.
Jan
I think too that it is important to share information on this. I agree that more people should post on it too.
There are four EPS system suppliers that I can find...so far. There are probably more?
I am not putting down anyone's attempt to make this work in a Pantera. Not in the slightest. It's a great idea. I'm just shareing information that I came across.
Here's one on the GM system. This one says the GM system typically develops issues in the 30,000 mile range.
http://www.aa1car.com/library/...g_power_electric.htm
As a result of this subject here, I just recently had a discussion with a Chevy service mechanic, who is a friend, on this subject. He said wait, took me into his shop and pulled out four of the GM units. He said, "I pulled these out of the dumpster. We changed these under warranty. I took them to see if there were any parts I could use and since I'm interested in them too, to see if I could find out what's wrong with them and fix them".
GM doesn't fix them. They just change out the entire unit and dump them. Interestingly enough, they don't even send them out to the GM certified rebuilders.
The point is, there are more than a few failures or issues with these systems. It's across the board. It isn't one manufacturer more than another.
The GM's are listed in the US as an area of concern. I don't think GM has recalled them yet, but it looks like the writing on the wall is that they may have too? Ooops. I spoke too soon.
According to one of the articles below GM recalled 1.6 million vehicles with electric power steering. Maybe that's an omen? Or is that an Amen? Hum?
There was only one death reported associated with the failure and as such that is not enough for the NHTSA to order a recall, but it may be too close to call on yes or no right now?
GM has a lot of these units out there and they have the largest exposure.
There are lots of sensors or electronics in the system to fail. A failed electronic sensor can cause the electric motor to fail due to over heating.
The 30,000 mile number with the GM MAY be the key factor on these systems?
Kinda puts a kink in my "build your own" desire and makes me question EVERYONE else's systems with NO particular singling out.
Both GM and Fiat's service manuals refer to "code reading" to analyse the system. Unfortunately PanteraDoug isn't GM or Fiat with their warranty support.
Here are a couple of other related articles.
http://www.consumerreports.org...g-problems/index.htm
http://www.consumeraffairs.com...problems-040114.html
There's more. Seems like the electronics components of this system are having issues with durability.
http://www.jerebeasleyreport.c...wer-steering-defect/
http://www.nbcnews.com/busines...ury-mariners-n117786
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com...er-nhtsa-probe_N.htm
http://www.quality-control.us/INME-PE10008-45940P.pdf
http://www.aboutlawsuits.com/h...roblems-nhtsa-73811/
Same repetitive issues over and over. Seems a reoccurring theme?
Maybe the best course of action, is no course of action? Tough for me working under that dashboard upside down anyway?
Failure at low parking lot speeds is one thing. What happens if the speed sensor fails at 100 mph and all of a sudden I have power steering assist when I don't want to?
I just checked the warranty. I can get a new replacement part free. That is predicated on having to survive the crash first though.
I think I must be too paranoid? Maybe it's the beer?
Charles Dickens used to drink Bass Ale. Said it helped his creativity? I have to give that up. Maybe Bud Light is good for me? Amstal Light tastes better though?