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Emblems

I am attempting to take off both DeTomaso and Pantera emblems from the rear of my car, but am having real difficulty at something that I thought would be real simple. These appear to be plastic emblems with the posts shoved into some kind of metal housing within the hole in the car. I tried pushing them out from the back engine area, but that didn't work. Then tried prying a screwdriver between the emblem itself and that metal housing on the outside of the nicely painted car (ouch!...don't slip!), not much working room there.

Is there some secret I am lacking, or just more time & patience needed.
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