Reply to "Gt4 's questions"

George and all thanks a lot! What happend with the first cars ? The reason , why I ask is :

I have bought a pantera in a terrible condition.
The chassis number is : 4829 BUT only on the paper. You can not see the chassisnumber ánymore. Only a few letters.

Next point is , nearly every part on this car is weldet
and only some parts of the chassis are original but :

when I scratch with a srewdriver on the metal under the dashboard a red color comes out.
When you scratch the first color is white, then comes a filler, than red.
So the first color from this chassis is red.

Raffaele from Italy has the original Invoice from this car and it was sold to Italy Import on 16 april 1973 with the color BIANCO - white! And 10 inch Campies. There is nothing more on this Invoice. Only Pantera , bianco and 10 inch wheels.
The first date it was on Germany streets was 24 may 1975 !
So it was build 1972 but 1975 first time on the street.

My chassis is verry special :

I have a hole on the right side for the fuel tank, I have leather seats, leather dashboard, and a left side panel without a hole for the filler neck. On my papers I can see THPNMS but on the car it is THPNMA maybe the THPN is not right, but there is a MA not an MS. I will check this once again tomorow.
Also I have weldet metal fender flares on the car. At first I want to cut them and bought me some new from Hall Pantera. So I start to cut the left side and try to fit them on the car.

But the Hall flares do not fit. The hole left and right side is a little bit wider than normal so it was to much work to make them fit.

I decide to weld back the left original flare on the rear. The original flares had something like dust plates in the front and on the rear also made from Metal and this looked verry ugly. I cutted them and make some new little "down corners " on the fender flares.
Also the battery is a little bit deeper than original.
I bought this pantera without any suspension and without brakes. There comes 2 carbs from Webber with it, but now manifold. They are from 1972 a Webber specialist told me. The outside door skin is new. There was also a roll cage inside, but I have to build a new one. It was also missing , when I bought the pantera projekt. I have a plastic rear window.
Raffaele from Italy told me, that it is possible that I have a chrashed race car, which was rebuild in the factory and sold with 10 inch wheels to the company Italy Import. Maybe the car was done for car shows . Some cars where painted and rebuild outside the detomaso factory at this time. So I search for more pictures from those cars at this time. My car have a special area, wich I would like to compare with the older photos from this time.
Also some older workers from DeTomaso say that there was a prototype from a GT4.
Maybe I will cut the Vin Plate and go to X-ray it.
Thanks for help

Peter