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Sorry to contradict you, Cyboman, but GT5 cars did come with 351W engines. I know this for a fact because my car (1989 GT5 #9517) was built with one.

Franz, as I recall you reported elsehere on this BB that the first GT5 was shown at the Turin Motor Show in 1980. Is there any reason why you think #9189 is a GTS and not a GT5, other than the fellow in Switzerland owning #9175 which happens to be a GTS? David Berman's list of late model cars includes these serial numbers:

#9116 - 1979 Pantera GTS - Germany
#9131 - 1980 Pantera GTS Sweden U. Campbell
#9139 – 1980 Pantera GTS Gruppo 3 – Austria
#9170 - 1980 Pantera GT5 Norway T. Bakos
#9178 - 1980 Pantera GT5 Arizona
#9182 - 1981 Pantera GT5 Atlanta
#9195 - 1983 Pantera GT5 London, Ontario, Canada - owned by Mario Malizia

Perhaps Bill van Ess can shed some light on this, but I think it is entirely possible #9189 is a GT5.


gt5-9189, insofar as it may be relevant to determining what engine you have, the 351W has the oil pressure sender on the front driver’s side of the engine. Even if yours doesn’t, I think the chances of the engine being original if it is a 302 are pretty slim – Cyboman is on the money there. Most likely you will have a Cleveland. The easiest way to tell if you have a Windsor or a Cleveland is to count the number of bolts in your valve covers. One came with six, and the other with eight bolts.

The Illustrated Pantera Buyer’s Guide by Matthew L. Stone reports that in 1983, “9250 built as first factory noted GT5 model. Prior GT5s probably recorded as modified GTS units from about late 1980.”

My car came from Dubai. gt5-9189, is there any chance you would know of a way to trace its history over there?

- Peter