deeb, If there were 2 or 3 pantera guys that would buy them and I had a lense and bucket assembly to design with then I would spend the time to design for Group4/5. Are the Group 4 and Group 5 are the same? I would have to experiment with the Group 5 lense and bucket to be sure of pricing since there are differences in lense design. (see my earlier post above) I would only have to borrow the lense and bucket. I see from your avitar you have the same lenses I have, is this for another car? See the demo video at http://mysite.verizon.net/vzesb3ri/panteraelectronics/
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