quote:Originally posted by Tom@Seal Beach:
Doug you're right on the chassis specific issues. I remember the Boss 302 cars getting these crazy looking wide pans with reservoirs sticking out the side but they had plenty of room.
Interesting to then look at dry sump systems that needed to be developed around the late 60's early 70's because the lateral G's were getting so high due to better tire compounds that a wet sump just couldn't keep the pickups covered (CanAm cars that could generate 1 to 1.5 G's in a corner).
The Mustangs really don't have plenty of room at all.
The lower control arm pivot point is close in there, and that's the same volume of space that
the headers want to occupy.
the Pantera actually has less obstructions and the "boat" pan design fits in very well.
There were more then a few dry sump cars built but space becomes and issue with some of them. You need a place to put the oil tank and the size of the oil lines are at least -12. Then you need to work the pumps in. Forget about it in a Pantera.
This is one of the reasons that Carrol Smith deemed the Pantera unraceable for Ford. Ford basically abandoning the car after that report. The GT40 having been conceived of as a race car from the beginning was more adaptable to necessary accessories like a dry sump, and access to it because of the flip tops. The Pantera being a GT doesn't adapt well to all out racing requirements as it is built new.
The GT40's were the first I remember seeing with dry sumps and I think those were the Mk II's (the 427 cars). Certainly the Mk IV is dry sump.
I don't remember if the Mark I Shelby Team cars are wet or dry sump.
The only major differences I have seen that are available in a wet sump are the SB Chevys. They have an optional "swing" pick-up.
You'd have to ask Randy Gillis but I think most of the Trans-Am Boss 302 cars got the Bud Moore stile pans.
This is the SB Ford Trans-Am pan for the Mustangs. The Bud Moore is a little different in the front and projects further making it necessary to use a skid plate on it.
