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Ironic it would be George's Weiand and Dominators that would come up with such a good illustration of the Dominator set up?

Randy was really just saying not to waist time on the 6214's. He couldn't get them to work. The set from the blue Boss 302 was for sale in 2012.

He knows what I am considering and he said cut to the chase, the 2" spacer is really what would make them work. The reason for that being that there is a minimum size needed to make a plenum.
He thought the 1" spacer with the 750 cfm carbs is what would work on the street or on a road track in the Pantera.

I think that 600's would be more like it though? I don't know if the engine can use two mechanical secondary 750's?

It isn't an argument really. It's what he saw after trying to dial in the "Warren Tope car", which I presume is the blue Boss?


We had a similar discussion about the 289-302 Holley dual quad manifolds. He runs the T/A version and has an issue with a flat spot in the 3,200 to 3,500 area.

He said, again in cutting to the chase, mount two Holley 1850's jet 'em and leave them alone.


When people ask me about how my Webers are jetted, I do the same thing. I tell them what I am running for fuel/air/emulsion tubes. It's more than getting in the door, it gets you in the game. He's like me in that sense. He tells you what he knows will work. If someone wants to try to reinvent the wheel it's their prerogative.

If someone else comes along and tells me that theirs is right, I'm totally wrong, that's ok, but I already know from my own experiences, pigs can't fly. Of course we did put them in catapults and kind of shoot them, but that's not really flying. Not in my terms, and they don't like it when you do that to them either. The landing is kind of rough?


The difference is his work was done on 302's, 331's, and a 340 (that one's odd, must be a standard bore stroker?) and there is a difference with the Cleveland.

He says the 6214 is just a Weber in disguise. I guess that grew on me?

The issue with that carb, from my Sense, when used in IR, is that the reversion doesn't permit the third circuit to work or work consistently or smoothly and that it is insurmountable. That's where he cuts to the chase and says use the dual 750 Dominators with the spacers.

This work was not done with a "Weber cam" which theoretically could help the issue but at this point I have to presume is still an unknown for anyone who's talking?


A few years ago he offered his Shelby to me to take a couple of passes with it when I came out to one of the recent SAAC Shelby Conventions. I never made it there and he probably will deny that? Wink


Again, it's not an argument, he knows how I think and is saving me a couple of years of work and wrong setups.


I agree with you on the setup. It's "bitchin". Thanks for the info. If this happens it won't be for awhile.
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