However, you are implying a lot into my post which I did NOT say. Further, you suffer from myopia. (shortsightedness)
As far as "bullsh*t!" - you seem to be the expert and I will defer to your expertise.
The "offending person" (no matter who, and that often includes myself) is often unsafe if anyone can see the trangression, as this often means there could be another vehicle with in collision distance. We won't get into pets and kids here - that would be too much for you to process.
"the other drivers around him " is exactly my point. An offending driver has no control over others on the road. (and the other drivers have a right to NOT be endangered, at least here in the greatest country, YMMV) Sure, this offenders car is probably safer than most, the offender may even have the skills to match the car. But I can say without doubt, he cannot control the environment around him.
The offending driver may, or may not, care what would happen to the car in an accident. I say it would be a SIN to wreck that white car. In fact, it would be a sin to wreck any pantera, whether it is due to inattentive driving (this can be anybody) or major over estimation of skills.
We have not addressed why the offender was speeding. Italian tune up? late for donuts? Not paying attention? (This is very easy to do in a Pantera) Showing off or whatever. (and I could cite dozens more sickening scenarios) BUTT (big but) it really doesn't matter, does it? Ask a Pantera driver who has stuffed his car into a tree if it was worth it? The final result will be sickening.
Has anyone in Canada ever hit a moose? (child, another car, a pet, a cow, you choose) Why? Can't you just stop? or drive around? Maybe it was just an "accident", eh? Accidents happen (yes at all speeds), why push the odds?
My guess is that speed limits are a good thing - hopefully (and yes to would be an intersting contest to determine if canadian or american bureaucrats are dumber) the limits are determined by possilbe road conditions, possible hazards and painfully (as you point out) the LCD "driving skill quotient." If you aren't endorsing safety, you are just plain stupid.
I know I am far safer at a track day with Bob B blowing by me or Mike D outbraking me into a corner than I am on my way to work. I also moderate my speed accordingly.
Once again, please don't put words in my mouth ( "You only point the finger at David because you have bought into the safety-Nazi hysteria that 'speed kills'." or "ad absurdum of your way of thinking would have us all driving at a walking pace.") - all I said was to drive with your brain and not your penis (the bumper sticker that says "Nice Pantera, sorry about the size of your penis" might have been made for you.) and be safe. This is probably good advice for typing, too. If you still think you were right, I can only offer the one finger salute.
Your little rant is quite entertaining, with good use of big words. It is similar to the philosophy I was in favor of in the early 1960s. Even I understood (not long after) that the street was not the place to proving stupidity.
In summary: the throttle works both ways, play somewhere safe. (I stand by this.)
YOU said what was done was unsafe . . . .
Yes, I am probably beyond good manners. Bad taste for good reason.
"Lord, I apolgize for what I said and all the suffering pygmies in the jungle"
quote:Originally posted by Peter H:
Pope:
Are you implying that what David was doing was unsafe?
Because, if you are, I call "bullsh*t!"
I can guarantee he was safer in his properly sorted high performance machine at the speed he was going than the other drivers around him who were yacking on the phone while driving their indifferently maintained and mediocre performing cars. I don't hear you telling them to go play somewhere safe.
It really gets me when people delude themselves into thinking that arbitrary speed limits set for the lowest common denominator among drivers and machines are somehow a moral threshold for responsibility or safety.
Face it; at the speed he was going, David and his machine were capable of stopping in a shorter distance, or performing any emergency information faster, than the perfectly legal beater or truck next to him. Do you consider the trucker to be endangering anyone? No. You only point the finger at David because you have bought into the safety-Nazi hysteria that 'speed kills'.
The reductio ad absurdum of your way of thinking would have us all driving at a walking pace. Speed limits reflect what engineers reasonably expect the trucker in his 80,000lb rig with hard compound retread tires to be able to handle more or less safely. They are not set according to what a high performance sports car with an attentive driver can handle safely. Speed does not kill. That's a fallacy, plain and simple. Drivers exceeding their skill and the capability of their machine kill. There's a big difference.