Not putting down what you do Lloyd, you are the best at it, no doubt about it. I just don't see where the ZF is worth the money for what it does when there are other choices that do the same thing for less.
The 930 Turbo Boxes will handle the HP and can be had for 3500 to 5000 rebuilt for the 5 speed. They also come in 6 speeds, for a little more. Far less than 16 grand for a 6 speed in Quaife or a ZF.
I suppose if I ever had a ZF that was right from the beginning I might feel different. I have had 2 different ZF's in my car and neither one has been right from the start. But I am in no position to spend the major $$$$$ to find out what a good box would be like. Besides, I've heard too many horror stories already to even take the chance of getting trapped into a major $$$$ bill fixing a ZF after the fact. I'd end up having to sell my car to pay for it. So what would be the point.
I just think it would be easier and cheaper now and in the long run to do a conversion if at all possible. But this is just my personal opinion from putting Porsche boxes to V-8's as I've done several times in the last 20 years.
The box I have now was suppose to have been just rebuilt. Paid 5 grand for it. It needs a 1st/reverse & second gear synro, may even need a gear or two. And that's how it came. That alone would probably cost 5 grand not including anything else that would be found once inside. To scary for me.
I love my Pantera, but not that much, can't afford too when it comes to the ZF. It seems to be the weakest and most expensive part of the Pantera.
I sincerely don't mean to offend anyone here, just saying what's on my mind, what I am being faced with and what I am about to deal with one way or another. Most of you guys know who I am and know that I would give the shirt off my back for any of you and our cars, so I hope you understand I am not attacking anyone here, specially Lloyd who has every right to make a living and do what he does so well.
This is probably the worst time I've ever had to deal with fixing my Pantera, for me anyway, all I can do is cringe at the thought of sending my ZF anywhere to be fixed.
Unless I figure out something, this could very well be the parting point for me and my Pantera.
quote:Originally posted by Lloyd Butfoy:
rebuild labor, gaskets, seals, and ring gear bolts is $1200 if you service your ZF when is first has a problem it's not so painfull but people run them into the ground and do more damage so the cost go up. Lloyd @RBT