#3168 427 FE

If I was going to sell a car I’d give PI Motorsports a call http://www.pim.net/ and have them help you. I can’t think of any other place that could do a better job of moving it for you.

Mike

How about an ad in POCA newsletter?

Free for members.

The smart shoppers join POCA long before handing over their money. And current owners often are on the look-out for friends that want to join the De Tomaso Family.

Larry

Jeff,

Sorry to hear you are selling. Looks like a nice car.

Lots of large detailed photos posted somewhere (there are lots of free photo sites) and maybe an ad on eBay (just to generate exposure) along with the excellent suggestions made by Mike and Larry. Check out the kind of photos that PIM does when they sell a car. I think they do as good a job as anyone when it comes to taking useful and high-quality photos of their cars for sale.

Good luck with the sale and I hope we see you back in the seat again in the future.

Of course, posting more details and an asking price here would be a good idea as well.

Mark

Thanks for all the advice.
I had spoken to Dave Adler(emails) last year just before I went to Bulgaria about pricing in todays(last years )market.
Biggest thing would be finding the buyer who is looking for one of the few 427 powered Panteras out there. Possibly an overseas sale that I am not familiar with arranging. Many plusses to consigning the car to PIM.





A few of the documents from the build.

Scans of the dyno testing done at the completion of the build in '89.

I'll be putting the louvers back on the car and getting it ready for a local car show this weekend and will get a complete set of current pictures for a possible eBay sale.

Thanks
Jeff

Aside from mine, how many other sideoiler Panteras are known to exist?

Pantera Performance built a race only version I believe, but I haven't had much luck searching out how many street driven 427's might be out there?

Robert Stuhr of Maui has a targa 427 S/O

Here are the latest pictures with the louvers re-installed.
Would these work well for a for sale writeup or eBay auction or should I gt some with minimal background "clutter".
I have a possible Cobra shop that might let me get shop pictures, maybe with an aluminum cobra body in the background?
I was thinking of promoting it to the Cobra crowd, tieing in with the 427FE? Make a nice stablemate to a 427 Cobra?

Clicking photo will open a photobucket slideshow page.

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Originally posted by 4NFORD:
Robert Stuhr of Maui has a targa 427 S/O

Would like to see some pics of that!

Kelly

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Originally posted by Panterror:

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Originally posted by 4NFORD:
Robert Stuhr of Maui has a targa 427 S/O

Would like to see some pics of that!

Kelly

Here's one.

Michael

One more.

Michael

Webbers? I'd be afraid of twisting it in two with no top. How was it reinforced?

Very nice cat, Bronco. Love those dbbl 650s! Must sound as good as it goes.

Thanks David B,
Scary to think the 650's were put on for street tune.
Previous owner ran 750's on the track.

Hey, about those targa versions, I saw Halls kit. It was truly a work of art and not very expensive. It was a complete section added to the frame rails to make it as stiff and stable without a roof. It was used on Purple Passion but I can't find any pics. Anyone have a link?

David,

Pictures of Purple Passion, or pictures of the kit?

Michael

Now's really not the time to be selling a car. The unstable economy has most people holding onto their money and most of the sales are "fire sales" where owners are forced to sell cheap. I've had the 5-0 pushbutton continuously listed on Ebay, not so much thinking that it will sell but more for the free advertising and world wide exposure. I've almost sold it twice but the owners could not swing the financing. I've received numerous trade offers from a Nissan GTR, a pair of custom Choppers, and numerous muscle cars. It's fun seeing what trade offers come in. People like the Panteras but I guess don't have the cash.

Looking for pics of the purple anodized subframe kit. Hall used to offer it for sale.

If that's Don Welch's 427 targa, it was the first one ever built, done 5 or so years before any such 'kits' were available, before Hall did a few similar cars and well before Pavesi did some targa-topped GT5-S cars for the DeTomaso factory. After the FE engine was in place, Don punched the throttle during his first test drive and the body flexed enough from torque that both doors popped open. Much time and engineering went into stiffening the monococque so that didn't happen again, even when it was open-tracked a few times. There's quite a bit of history on that particular So-Cal machine.

David,

I dug out my 'Big Book' Pantera album just for you and took some digital pictures of pictures of Hall's targa subframe I took in Vegas in '93. He had the parts displayed arranged like the car itself because he hadn't yet completed (or even started?) Purple Passion. They're not the best pictures because they were dark to begin with and I had to take the digital pictures on an angle with no flash to reduce glare.

I don't ever recall Hall offering these parts for sale, but I do recall him saying that he would never do another one again because it was just too much of a pain in the ass and too labor intensive. He said he wouldn't duplicate Purple Passion for $400,000.

First picture is more or less straight on:

Michael

Second picture is view from passenger side:

Michael

Third picture is view from engine bay. It's hard to see in this picture, but it's a tubular rollbar that ties into rocker extensions:

Michael

Fourth and last picture is just a touch of the passenger side rocker extension at the rear to see how the roll bar triangulation ties in:

Michael

That sub frame was in their show room when I visited it last spring. It was listed in their catalog. Doesn't mean they still have any for sale or make but a good part to study.

Thinking about going topless, David?

Michael

Thanks Michael! That's the one.

Yes, I also saw it in their showroom. It was anodized purple and pink. But was also available in steel or aluminum. I was amazed how inexpensive it was.

Topless? Hmmm... I'm keeping it in mind for the next one I build. I have the body, trim, colour, drivetrain and interior all figured - except for the roof.

Now all I need is the money

Anybody have the number to the FAA?
My thread's been hijacked!

Dude, you are so right. I feel terrible.

Maybe we did that because we can't let you sell such a nice car. A badass 427 with twin carbs belongs with you Bronco.

Even though it may be worth a fortune as the only woodgrain Pantera in existence.

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Even though it may be worth a fortune as the only woodgrain Pantera in existence.

Wrong, my dear friend...

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Originally posted by LF - TP 2511:

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Even though it may be worth a fortune as the only woodgrain Pantera in existence.

Wrong, my dear friend...

Curses, foiled again. lol
And that one's hardwood, mine's trailer park plywood.

Sheesh. I forgot about that. Although I do remember seeing it on fire in a field somewhere.

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on fire in a field somewhere.

It was some sort of art thingy, IIRC

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Originally posted by 4NFORD:
Now's really not the time to be selling a car. The unstable economy has most people holding onto their money and most of the sales are "fire sales" where owners are forced to sell cheap. I've had the 5-0 pushbutton continuously listed on Ebay, not so much thinking that it will sell but more for the free advertising and world wide exposure. I've almost sold it twice but the owners could not swing the financing. I've received numerous trade offers from a Nissan GTR, a pair of custom Choppers, and numerous muscle cars. It's fun seeing what trade offers come in. People like the Panteras but I guess don't have the cash.

Yeah, haven't had a lotta luck with eBay lately, lotsa trade offers. Got my 'Cuda relisted after the top bidder flaked on a buy it now he begged for and never pushed the button.