Dash material

Crazy glue it. That's simplest.

I don't mind getting some of the headliner glue, as I'll be doing the headliner, too. I'm just worried as its tight, at an angle, from the top of the dash to the bottom. I guess if I heat it up I can get it to stretch back out.
Thinking if I loosen the top then clamp glue and clamp the bottom down, then the vertical surface?

The headliner glue doesn't dry hard. It stays gooie.

You need to plant the vinyl to the fiberglass.

Contact glues work better for that purpose.

Try using a hairdryer on hot to soften the vinyl and see if you can stretch it that way.

Home Depot has got metal clips, like close pins, with rubber covered tips. They work well for clamping the material.

You may need to get a rubber roller for pressing the vinyl firmly into the glue.

Thanks. I have an adjustable heat gun, and I have a roller I used for something else that might work.

I'll look at the glues at the hardware store. I have gorilla, but it does that wierd spreading thing and I'm afraid I'd end up with lumps.

Try the Loctite Super Glue. It works very well on vinyls or leather when it sets. Look out about gluing your fingers to it though. It instantaneously bonds skin to whatever you are touching, like your tongue to a piece of metal in the winter.

Very good, thanks man!
I read pulling the dash is a 2 hour job. That means 2 weeks for me!
I hope this works out, I don't mind the factory look and its in too good of shape to rip out.

Two hours? I just did one. I don't think so. More.

That seemed pretty optimistic to me as well. Especially for a first timer. Only thing I have going for me is that its clearly been out before and the previous owner didn't feel like most things needed all their screws to hold things in.

I would use a good upholstery adhesive ( 3M ) spray both the back of the vinyl and the dash, wait till both are tacky then attach., it will stick and hold. On the headliner, do not reattach directly to the roof! After you pull carefully the headliner material off the foam that is stuck to the roof, make a template out of cardboard, the idea is to have the template held in place by the side , back and front attached bolsters, then buy a piece of foam core board , cut to the template, then with the upholstery adhesive mount it to the foam core, install side, front, and back bolsters. On the pulling of the dash, I changed over to a carbon fiber dash and new instruments, 3 weeks, mark all your wire connections.

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Originally posted by popsrcr:
That seemed pretty optimistic to me as well. Especially for a first timer. Only thing I have going for me is that its clearly been out before and the previous owner didn't feel like most things needed all their screws to hold things in.

Chris - did you scrape off the foam mess on the roof? My headliner has dropped, so its not very stuck to anything,

When I did mine I scraped off the foam carefully, cleaned the roof, glued new 1/4" foam to my old fabric and re-glued it to the roof. six years later it's doing great.

Mark

Here's my headliner restoration:
http://www.banzairunnerpantera...chinfo_headliner.htm

Thanks guys. I will likely buy new headliner. Price didn't seem bad, and mine is dirty in the back where it has been flapping around in the wind.

The foam comes off with a wire brush, but removing it is not necessary, the foam core material is ridged and is only covering a short span between the bolsters, the nice thing about doing it this way, you can do it on the kitchen table, not upside down in cramped confines of the car., this make for a very clean instillation, mine is perfect and was done 16 years ago. By the way this the preferred method for many of the top Pantera shops. One other thing, it takes about an hour to do.

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Originally posted by popsrcr:
Chris - did you scrape off the foam mess on the roof? My headliner has dropped, so its not very stuck to anything,

Chris
Ok, I know what foam core is, but ridged? Not sure I follow. The rest all makes sense. I'm thinking of putting speakers up there too.

One thing to remember besides cleaning the disintegrated foam off the roof is, use HIGH-TEMP glue! The roof panel will get to well over 120F in the summer whether your A/C works or not, and many interior upholstery glues will simply melt at that temp. Then down comes the headliner again. FWIW, while I can fix most anything on a Pantera, I got a pro hot-rod upholsterer to redo our headliner & trunks. As John Wayne said, 'A man's gotta know his limitations....'

When I say the foam core is ridged I mean it is stiff enough to handle the short span between the bolsters, I have seen speakers ( small ones ) mounted in the BOLSTERS, I would not, you should consult a good stereo guy, the car poses special problems with stereos.

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Originally posted by popsrcr:
Chris
Ok, I know what foam core is, but ridged? Not sure I follow. The rest all makes sense. I'm thinking of putting speakers up there too.

If you are having difficulty with the headliner sticking, you can do it another way.

Te Pantera is a lot like the headliner of a pickup truck.

You can use a time proven method of cutting a hard board and holding it in place with the edge moldings.

IF you need to go that route don't use cardboard. Get a door skin and use that. You will probably need to order one from your lumber yard but you can get one. \

They will hold up and are nice and thin. about 1/32".

The amount of headroom you will loose is negligible.