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Originally posted by RobertVegas:
The other controversial issue in my circle of friends: Mac or PC?

I own a design firm, so I have a LOT of Macs and have purchased eleventy million of them over the years. At home we have one Mac and one PC.


Uh, Mac, Duh.... Wink

I also own a design firm and have every Mac I ever bought (that didn't melt). I'm hoping when I'm 75 I'll be able to sell them on eBay as antiques and fund my retirement. roll on floor

But seriously, even my PC friends are getting Macs now. I even know a very senior guy at Microsoft who uses an iPhone (when nobody is looking). The build quality of Apple stuff isn't what it was when they were made in the USA, but they sure are feature-packed and easy to use.

Mark
Here are 2 good quotes:

"You can't read a book to learn to swim" Terry Gou

'In 20 years, there will be only two companies. Everything will be made by Foxconn and sold by Wal-Mart.'

Still either I earn too much or they earn not enough .. $176 per month Frowner
Apologies in advance to myself for the thread-drift here, but this is "the Pub" where we are supposed to exchange ideas...

People who know me well are familiar with my frustrated rants at the direction the world is headed. The unfortunate reality is that nothing any one of us does will likely have any significant impact towards changing the course we (the Western World) are on. Buy American or Canadian all you want. Your neighbor is still going to buy cheap Chinese products from Wal-Mart. In fact, ALL your neighbors will. Soon enough you won't be ABLE to buy much of anything made in America. All because we are fixated on being a throw-away society who always demands more for less, convenience over longevity, fashion and style over function and durability.

I still have tools that my Grandfather MADE with his own hands, and some that he bought. Nice reminders of an era when a person's time was too valuable to waste it producing something that didn't last as long as possible. Don't get me wrong, I'm no paragon of morality and am just as addicted to crap as the next guy. I have a whole host of tools made off-shore as well. All I can say is that I am preparing for the day (and it's not far off IMO) when we will be paying such high tax and fees to dispose of the junk we have accumulated that we will have to bury the stuff in our back yards.

If you agree with me that doing meaningful work is essential to one's self-worth, imagine how soul-destroying it must be to work in a Chinese factory making some of the stuff shown below. Imagine spending your hard-earned wages to buy this crap. Then imagine you had to keep it forever or pay to dispose of it. It must be a bad dream because this can't be reality.

The only thing that might save us is if those in the rest of the world start a revolt and decide that they really don't want to use up all of their resources, sell their lives (for $176/month), destroy their health (mental and physical) and their environments all so that we can buy more crap for less.

Rant over (for now). Smiler

Mark

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Originally posted by Pantera 1887:
Sure glad I don’t have an i-phone, would hate to be a party to this http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39...oomberg_businessweek Makes you wonder what kind of conditions other stuff is made and do you add to the misery by buying Chinese imports? Over the last few years I’ve avoided Chinese products whenever possible.

Mike

You like garlic powder? Check and see where it comes from! Not all, but a lot of the name brands get products, in part from China. First dog food and then........
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Originally posted by Mark Charlton:
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Originally posted by RobertVegas:
The other controversial issue in my circle of friends: Mac or PC?

I own a design firm, so I have a LOT of Macs and have purchased eleventy million of them over the years. At home we have one Mac and one PC.


Uh, Mac, Duh.... Wink

I also own a design firm and have every Mac I ever bought (that didn't melt). I'm hoping when I'm 75 I'll be able to sell them on eBay as antiques and fund my retirement. roll on floor

But seriously, even my PC friends are getting Macs now. I even know a very senior guy at Microsoft who uses an iPhone (when nobody is looking). The build quality of Apple stuff isn't what it was when they were made in the USA, but they sure are feature-packed and easy to use.

Mark


HUGE Mac fan! Although I am currently stuck using a PC. (I can honestly say I HATE this machine) I managed a print shop at a state college for a couple years and then did illustrations for the Bureau of Geology for several years, all on a Mac. I now work for the Residential Life Office at a college -no design or artwork required!

Call me unusual, but I prefer Pepsi over Coke any day!
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Originally posted by RobertVegas:
I like the headline for the handset that plugs into your cell phone. It states "it's like talking on your home phone." I haven't had a "home phone" for six years, so talking on my cell phone is like talking on my home phone. It gets sorta circular.


I cannot imagine operating without a landline. I have 6 portable phones at home and I do not have a big house. I want it to be easy to pick up a call no matter where I am in the abode.

My problem with using cell phones at home is that I can never answer the call in time before it goes to voice mail.

Besides, I do not want to clip an iPhone to my underwear or my pajamas.
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Originally posted by Cuvee:
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Originally posted by Pantera 1887:
Sure glad I don’t have an i-phone, would hate to be a party to this http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39...oomberg_businessweek Makes you wonder what kind of conditions other stuff is made and do you add to the misery by buying Chinese imports? Over the last few years I’ve avoided Chinese products whenever possible.

Mike

You like garlic powder? Check and see where it comes from! Not all, but a lot of the name brands get products, in part from China. First dog food and then........


I do my best to avoid Chinese junk. Sometimes you can’t, but if you try you would be surprised how easy it can be. It only takes one person at a time trying and it could make a big impact.

Mike
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Originally posted by four walling:

I cannot imagine operating without a landline. I have 6 portable phones at home and I do not have a big house. I want it to be easy to pick up a call no matter where I am in the abode.

My problem with using cell phones at home is that I can never answer the call in time before it goes to voice mail.

Besides, I do not want to clip an iPhone to my underwear or my pajamas.


Six portable phones? So you just leave one in every room? I just keep my cell phone in my pocket (or coffee table, etc.) and don't walk around in my PJs.

I couldn't go back to a land line because so much communication is done through email, text and Facebook...and I have all those things on my iPhone. Can't play games or watch Netflix on a land line either. :-) Haven't you ever been on the couch watching a movie and you think "hmmm, I have seen that actress before" and you want to check IMDB to see what else she has been in but you don't want to walk all the way over to the computer? iPhone!
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Originally posted by RobertVegas:

Six portable phones? So you just leave one in every room? I just keep my cell phone in my pocket (or coffee table, etc.) and don't walk around in my PJs.

I couldn't go back to a land line because so much communication is done through email, text and Facebook...and I have all those things on my iPhone. Can't play games or watch Netflix on a land line either. :-) Haven't you ever been on the couch watching a movie and you think "hmmm, I have seen that actress before" and you want to check IMDB to see what else she has been in but you don't want to walk all the way over to the computer? iPhone!


nope-there's 7:

1. master bedroom
2. guest room
3. home office
4. garage
5. NW corner of the family room
6 and 7. the SE corner of the family room (2 different landline phone numbers located here however Smiler)
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Originally posted by RobertVegas:
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Originally posted by four walling:

6 and 7. the SE corner of the family room (2 different landline phone numbers located here however Smiler)


We have two lines as well - my wife has a Droid. The other day she was washing the dog and needed help, but couldn't leave the dog unattended to yell for me...so she sent me a text. Smiler

Man...some of you guys would have never made in the old days, when there was only one phone in the house and it was on the wall AND was a party line! LOL
Man...some of you guys would have never made in the old days, when there was only one phone in the house and it was on the wall AND was a party line! LOL[/QUOTE]

You forgot the phone was black and often others would listen-in, ask you to hang-up cause they needed the line. Smiler
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Originally posted by Cuvee:]
Man...some of you guys would have never made in the old days, when there was only one phone in the house and it was on the wall AND was a party line! LOL


I do remember when we only had one phone, and it was attached to the wall, but I can't imagine a party line. Boy am I glad technology is moving forward at light speed.
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I do remember when we only had one phone, and it was attached to the wall, but I can't imagine a party line. Boy am I glad technology is moving forward at light speed.


I STILL have one of those in the garage. Phones that are hardwired still work when the power goes out and when the portable phones won't.

However, last year I did have a whole house standby generator with automatic transfer switch installed at my house. The generator has come on 5 times in the last 12 months providing power to the house when SDG&E has a power outage. It is a very handy item to have.
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Originally posted by Cowboy from Hell:
I'm around daily, but I'm on vacation, just checking the forums daily via a laptop. I'll be hiking the Grand Canyon today.

The forum statistics are very good, I'm proud of them, we have a very active forum. I changed the length of time a members name remains at the bottom of the summary page after they log-off. It had been set at 60 minutes,I think I lowered it to 10 minutes. So the list of names of members logged-on is often shorter now, but actually more accurate.

-G


George,

Do you still have the log off time set to 10 minutes?
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