1973 Pantera up for auction at Kruse's Labor Day Auction(all this week). Anyone here own this cat???
Jeff
Note: Kim and I are going to Auburn on friday, anybody else going this weekend??
Pantera for Sale
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Thanks for posting, and I'm sorry I'm not going. I've been to that before and MAN what a gathering.
There's not much 'foreign' stuff there, so this Pantera may not do THAT great. The sound ought to be familiar to the muscle car lovers though.
Let's start our own fantasy bid, I say it goes for $38k. Whoever's closest to actual hammer price gets a leaky Koni shock. Who's in?
There's not much 'foreign' stuff there, so this Pantera may not do THAT great. The sound ought to be familiar to the muscle car lovers though.
Let's start our own fantasy bid, I say it goes for $38k. Whoever's closest to actual hammer price gets a leaky Koni shock. Who's in?
For what kind of car?
I have been looking for a leaky shock for some time now......
wish we could see a bit more of the car
I say $ 36,000.00
wish we could see a bit more of the car
I say $ 36,000.00
Bad economy, I'll say $34,000 but hope I'm wrong.
Like the color
Like the color
Last year they had one at the Labor Day auction bidding got to $63K. Wasn't the cream of the crop, and it did not sell. There is lots of money running around Kruse during this week.
Jeff
2006 Kruse Pantera
Jeff
2006 Kruse Pantera
I'm with Mark's comment. People are nervous about the economy and "toys" usually take a hit. In addition the cost of restoration, such as paint and body seems to keep going up. Panteras and general muscle car/hobby car ownership is getting more expensive to get in to and do. Kinda takes some of the fun out of it. I assume Panteras will do better than others as they are rather unique and had limited production.
I agree the economy's not helping, but the largest income sector growth in % from 2002-2005 was in the millionaire class reflecting all the articles on "Growth of the Affluent".
These newly minted millionaires (in net worth) DO buy lots of toys (Barrett Jackson as one of their favorite toyboxes). The air is mostly let out of the muscle car rise, with 'rare and unusually well documented' cars (SCM's version of what makes 'em valuable) still doing well or at least holding.
This is an American phenomenon since the rest of the world doesn't quite 'get' our muscle car obsession, so IF the bottom drops out of US economy or those who invested therein... the $ vs Euro argument ain't helping at all. I see V8 gloom. However...
Many cars do fare well in a tilted exchange rate. Panteras may not fully make that list but they're on the screen. Plus most of the people who ogle my car LOVE that it has the V8 "tune anywhere" aspect (yes, they forget the other 47,000 things 'not' Ford on it but who cares?).
To be honest, the "approchability" factor of the car is one of my main attractions to this car. Looks exotic, runs great, sounds like a PO'd Mountain Lion, handles with the best of them (after some mods) and I CAN go to NAPA and not get laughed out of the store. Try that with any other exotic.
Anyway, sorry to ramble. I think the Pantera will fare 'ok' even if musclecars take a mildly deserved nose dive.
And to win the leaky Koni shock, my estimate on a car no one here has really 'seen' sticks at my original guess. We'll see!
These newly minted millionaires (in net worth) DO buy lots of toys (Barrett Jackson as one of their favorite toyboxes). The air is mostly let out of the muscle car rise, with 'rare and unusually well documented' cars (SCM's version of what makes 'em valuable) still doing well or at least holding.
This is an American phenomenon since the rest of the world doesn't quite 'get' our muscle car obsession, so IF the bottom drops out of US economy or those who invested therein... the $ vs Euro argument ain't helping at all. I see V8 gloom. However...
Many cars do fare well in a tilted exchange rate. Panteras may not fully make that list but they're on the screen. Plus most of the people who ogle my car LOVE that it has the V8 "tune anywhere" aspect (yes, they forget the other 47,000 things 'not' Ford on it but who cares?).
To be honest, the "approchability" factor of the car is one of my main attractions to this car. Looks exotic, runs great, sounds like a PO'd Mountain Lion, handles with the best of them (after some mods) and I CAN go to NAPA and not get laughed out of the store. Try that with any other exotic.
Anyway, sorry to ramble. I think the Pantera will fare 'ok' even if musclecars take a mildly deserved nose dive.
And to win the leaky Koni shock, my estimate on a car no one here has really 'seen' sticks at my original guess. We'll see!
Well the toys theory just got shot down alittle in my part of the world. A couple just came over and looked at my bike. Loved it and gave me a deposit. First caller, and first to see the bike. Go figure.
Jeff
PS. My fantasy bid is 55K for the Pantera.
Jeff
PS. My fantasy bid is 55K for the Pantera.
quote:Originally posted by JeffS:
Well the toys theory just got shot down alittle in my part of the world. A couple just came over and looked at my bike. Loved it and gave me a deposit. First caller, and first to see the bike. Go figure.
Jeff
PS. My fantasy bid is 55K for the Pantera.
Clearly, you weren't asking enough! Kidding. Usually - to me - the first ones to look are the most serious. Great going.
So, let me get this straight: you sold your bike for $55grand and are bidding on another Pantera!?!? Great! I KNEW I had that right!
Have fun with your car, your ex-bike, new friends, and a shopping list.
quote:the $ vs Euro argument ain't helping at all.
I have been studying other marques lately just to see how they compare and also becuse I kind of like them, but what I found was that on the Lotus Europa, which they sold a lot of those over here in the states, they are only going for 5-10 thousand bucks. SO like questions on e-bay cars arealways from guys from Germany andDenmark and england. Cause they can now afford to pay Americans a paultry sum for their cars and afford the huge importation taxes in their own countries. Europeon middle clas is now far and away, richer than American middle class.
I knew this would happen.
Just got home from the auction. what a blast. Did notice that there were not as many vendors this year, and it seemed the prices were down. Saw a very nice 69 SS Chevelle not even break $30K.
But the yellow Pantera went for $39,000. I talked to the owner and he was hoping for $50K. The price was staying low until he dropped the reserve.
Pictures to come.
Jeff
But the yellow Pantera went for $39,000. I talked to the owner and he was hoping for $50K. The price was staying low until he dropped the reserve.
Pictures to come.
Jeff
Pictures of the yellow Pantera.
I know the car. It was owned by a real estate developer here in Indianapolis, DB Mann. I tried to buy the car for between 33-34M about 4 years ago. It has to be the same car. It has a very bright blue thin line between the black and yellow. I did not know anything about a new ZF & clutch. As I remember shortly after I tried to buy the car, he closed down the exotic motors store. I haven't seen the car since.
Indy Dave
Indy Dave
looks like a really sharp car, someone may have gotten quite a car
quote:Originally posted by Ahudson
Let's start our own fantasy bid, I say it goes for $38k. Whoever's closest to actual hammer price gets a leaky Koni shock. Who's in?
Originally posted by JeffS:
Just got home from the auction. what a blast. But the yellow Pantera went for $39,000. I talked to the owner and he was hoping for $50K. The price was staying low until he dropped the reserve.
Pictures to come.
Jeff
IT APPEARS THAT I WON THE LEAKY KONI SHOCK! NOW, WHOEVER'S GOT IT, SEND IT TO ME PRONTO. I want it to go with my bad steering rack bearing!
Thanks for the update Jeff. The car looks pretty darn straight. I'm not a big fan of that "Boxer" paint scheme, but to each his own. The rest of it looks pretty nice.
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