I am looking for a decent no rust pantera (71-74). I would also like to talk with some owners in my area I live in Nashville Tn,also is there any pantera gathering in the near future near where I live. Thanks, Jay Holt
Original Post
Replies sorted oldest to newest
Buy Bill Duddleson's yellow car. It is as good a car as you will find.
See it in the new PI magazine, or call Paige Adler at PI for Bill's contact information. At about 45K you will need to do nothing except get in and drive a beautiful car.
[This message has been edited by phill1 (edited 11-20-2003).]
See it in the new PI magazine, or call Paige Adler at PI for Bill's contact information. At about 45K you will need to do nothing except get in and drive a beautiful car.
[This message has been edited by phill1 (edited 11-20-2003).]
quote:
Originally posted by phill1:
Buy Bill Duddleson's yellow car. It is as good a car as you will find.
See it in the new PI magazine, or call Paige Adler at PI for Bill's contact information. At about 45K you will need to do nothing except get in and drive a beautiful car.
[This message has been edited by phill1 (edited 11-20-2003).]
I would like to, but @ 45K thats more than I had Planned to spend
Jay: Unless you are a expert body man and mechanic, the best advice you can receive is to purchase the most expensive Pantera you can afford. Pay up front, avoid downtime, aggravation, and and more than likely you will ultimately save money and have more fun. If you would like contact me. There are two very clean Panteras in South Florida that are now for sale (71-74). However, the asking prices are around $45,000.00. I am not the seller. Both cars are very clean. Also, if you wish, I can put you on the SE Pantera mailing list. We have several get togethers Jan-April already planned where you can see many Panteras and talk to a large number of Pantera owners for their opinions. Do not rush into buying the first car, there are plenty of nice cars out there. Do not buy without having a Pantera expert looking at the car with you. Our northern most get together will be in Orlando in March 2004. Two years ago we had 28 Panteras at this show. Other get togethers further south as early as Jan 2004. Good luck!
quote:
Originally posted by Jay Allen:
Jay: Unless you are a expert body man and mechanic, the best advice you can receive is to purchase the most expensive Pantera you can afford. Pay up front, avoid downtime, aggravation, and and more than likely you will ultimately save money and have more fun. If you would like contact me. There are two very clean Panteras in South Florida that are now for sale (71-74). However, the asking prices are around $45,000.00. I am not the seller. Both cars are very clean. Also, if you wish, I can put you on the SE Pantera mailing list. We have several get togethers Jan-April already planned where you can see many Panteras and talk to a large number of Pantera owners for their opinions. Do not rush into buying the first car, there are plenty of nice cars out there. Do not buy without having a Pantera expert looking at the car with you. Our northern most get together will be in Orlando in March 2004. Two years ago we had 28 Panteras at this show. Other get togethers further south as early as Jan 2004. Good luck!
I am not going to rush my buying process until I become more knowledgeable about the pantera up till now all I Have to go on is my brother inlaw which purchased his last week. I would be happy to be on the mailing list. Thank you very much, Jay Holt
Dear Jay Holt,
The comments offered by the famous Jay Allen are right on the money. Just last week a guy came to see me after he had purchased a 71 Pushbutton Pantera, a fairly rare car. He was all smiles. I looked it over carefully and found he has very small but meaningful rust/paint issues: on a rocker panel, paint bubbles on both front lower fenders, that he "thought" were just "minor" items. Proper repairs will likely require a complete repaint and proper (cut out old metal-replace with new--sanding to bare metal rust inhibitors etc.) body repairs before the repaint. His car is running a bit hot, so a new radiator, high flow water pump,new fans and replace rubber and metal coolant lines and so on. This alone is a 10K to 15k bit of work. So his 27k car is now a 37k to 41k car. Panteras are NOT cheap but there are a lot of dopes out there who find out to their suprise that they have to dump 30 to 40 thousand just to bring the car up to acceptable standards. I have found that someone must really love the car above alternatives for ownership to make sense.
Otherwise, a 20k Corvette makes far more sense. But for those of us who look at the car and revel in it's style and the V8 growling away, it is a car in a class by itself.
[This message has been edited by phill1 (edited 11-21-2003).]
The comments offered by the famous Jay Allen are right on the money. Just last week a guy came to see me after he had purchased a 71 Pushbutton Pantera, a fairly rare car. He was all smiles. I looked it over carefully and found he has very small but meaningful rust/paint issues: on a rocker panel, paint bubbles on both front lower fenders, that he "thought" were just "minor" items. Proper repairs will likely require a complete repaint and proper (cut out old metal-replace with new--sanding to bare metal rust inhibitors etc.) body repairs before the repaint. His car is running a bit hot, so a new radiator, high flow water pump,new fans and replace rubber and metal coolant lines and so on. This alone is a 10K to 15k bit of work. So his 27k car is now a 37k to 41k car. Panteras are NOT cheap but there are a lot of dopes out there who find out to their suprise that they have to dump 30 to 40 thousand just to bring the car up to acceptable standards. I have found that someone must really love the car above alternatives for ownership to make sense.
Otherwise, a 20k Corvette makes far more sense. But for those of us who look at the car and revel in it's style and the V8 growling away, it is a car in a class by itself.
[This message has been edited by phill1 (edited 11-21-2003).]
quote:
Originally posted by phill1:
Dear Jay Holt,
The comments offered by the famous Jay Allen are right on the money. Just last week a guy came to see me after he had purchased a 71 Pushbutton Pantera, a fairly rare car. He was all smiles. I looked it over carefully and found he has very small but meaningful rust/paint issues: on a rocker panel, paint bubbles on both front lower fenders, that he "thought" were just "minor" items. Proper repairs will likely require a complete repaint and proper (cut out old metal-replace with new--sanding to bare metal rust inhibitors etc.) body repairs before the repaint. His car is running a bit hot, so a new radiator, high flow water pump,new fans and replace rubber and metal coolant lines and so on. This alone is a 10K to 15k bit of work. So his 27k car is now a 37k to 41k car. Panteras are NOT cheap but there are a lot of dopes out there who find out to their suprise that they have to dump 30 to 40 thousand just to bring the car up to acceptable standards. Look at the detailed photos of Duddlesons car at 45K versus Jim Dixons car at about 30K. They are both good cars. I have found that someone must really love the car above alternatives for ownership to make sense.
Otherwise, a 20k Corvette makes far more sense. But for those of us who look at the car and revel in it's style and the V8 growling away, it is a car in a class by itself.
[This message has been edited by phill1 (edited 11-21-2003).]
quote:
Originally posted by phill1:
Dear Jay Holt,
The comments offered by the famous Jay Allen are right on the money. Just last week a guy came to see me after he had purchased a 71 Pushbutton Pantera, a fairly rare car. He was all smiles. I looked it over carefully and found he has very small but meaningful rust/paint issues: on a rocker panel, paint bubbles on both front lower fenders, that he "thought" were just "minor" items. Proper repairs will likely require a complete repaint and proper (cut out old metal-replace with new--sanding to bare metal rust inhibitors etc.) body repairs before the repaint. His car is running a bit hot, so a new radiator, high flow water pump,new fans and replace rubber and metal coolant lines and so on. This alone is a 10K to 15k bit of work. So his 27k car is now a 37k to 41k car. Panteras are NOT cheap but there are a lot of dopes out there who find out to their suprise that they have to dump 30 to 40 thousand just to bring the car up to acceptable standards. I have found that someone must really love the car above alternatives for ownership to make sense.
Otherwise, a 20k Corvette makes far more sense. But for those of us who look at the car and revel in it's style and the V8 growling away, it is a car in a class by itself.
[This message has been edited by phill1 (edited 11-21-2003).]
I believe that the pantera is the car for me, I'm just going to learn as much as I can before I purchase. Thanks for all the advice keep it coming. Thanks again , Jay Holt
After visiting Chuck's site, go to
www.panteraplace.com
Then go to the DeTomaso e-mail forum entry page.
http://realbig.com/pipermail/detomaso/
You can access several years of archives, and yes, you should start at the beginning and read them all. You are going to buy a thirty year old, rust prone, Italian hot rod. It will come modified and with no warranty. You must know what you are doing, and reading is a good start. Then, find the nearest POCA chapter and start attending. And we will see you in Las Vegas this coming April, right? Hundreds of cars, and owners, all willing to share their stories and experience. Whatever your budget is, consider using the "save this for the extras" budget in the original purchase. It is cheaper to buy what someone else has done than to do it yourself. It is hard for a wise buyer to overpay - easy to do if you buy on impulse. If you spend a year, or two, shopping for 'your' car, you won't be the first to do so.
Larry
www.panteraplace.com
Then go to the DeTomaso e-mail forum entry page.
http://realbig.com/pipermail/detomaso/
You can access several years of archives, and yes, you should start at the beginning and read them all. You are going to buy a thirty year old, rust prone, Italian hot rod. It will come modified and with no warranty. You must know what you are doing, and reading is a good start. Then, find the nearest POCA chapter and start attending. And we will see you in Las Vegas this coming April, right? Hundreds of cars, and owners, all willing to share their stories and experience. Whatever your budget is, consider using the "save this for the extras" budget in the original purchase. It is cheaper to buy what someone else has done than to do it yourself. It is hard for a wise buyer to overpay - easy to do if you buy on impulse. If you spend a year, or two, shopping for 'your' car, you won't be the first to do so.
Larry