Restoration

My guess and experience is these cars were heavily undercoated from the factory and the only way to remove it is by hand with chemicals or heat guns ..blasting it doesnt work well and very costly ... and the cars dont bring back the return on the investment ? ... its seems all the Pantera owners whos cars are spotless underneath ..are driving and enjoying their cars. Maybe after putting all the money and all that work ..why not enjoy the car ?

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y guess and experience is these cars were heavily undercoated from the factory and the only way to remove it is by hand with chemicals or heat guns

I'll vouch for that I'm currently stripping the underside of the car with a heat gun a) to check what's lurking underneath and b) to paint with a rust inhibitor and chassis black

Believe me that undercoat can hide a multitude of sins.

Julian

Julian, what finishing products are you using? I am just about to start scraping and sanding my chassis and firewall. I like the idea of applying a rust inhibitor and some paint.

Thanks in advance,
EA

Erik,

I've heard many people praise POR15 as a rust inhibitor. It must be top-coated if exposed to UV light as that will degrade its effectiveness.

http://www.por15.com/

Mark

Thanks, Mark. Cool product.

I am already into the cleaning and degreasing stage. It's a little easier with the Cleveland/ZF out - and, of course, the lift.

Hey, what product did you use to re-do your engine bay? Your pix would indicate a bedliner-type spray.

I was planning to use a bed liner but someone talked me out of it. I went with a textured satin black paint (used for bumpers) that is quite hard but not chip or scratch resistant. When I get around to pulling the engine and ZF down the road, I will probably use a bed liner product as I have seen a few cars done that way and they look great and it is tough as nails. Someone previously raised fears of flammability but as far as I know they are unfounded.

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Julian, what finishing products are you using?

I'm using Rust Bullet products, (similar to POR15) it just so happens that the comapny is based here in Reno, so I can pick up locally. The products have had a lot of indepenent testing and coem out well. It is also sold through Summit Racing and I see they now have a Canadian distributors, one being Certified Tool & Supply in Edmonton.

Here's the website; www.rustbullet.com

If you decide to go with this product and have any supply problems let me know and I'll pick up what you need and ship it out to you.

I have seen cars done with the bedliner type materials, they can look good, but not all do in my opinion, depending on the actual brand and color choice. The durability advantage is a big benefit and color choices are becoming almost endless now. Personally I'm going to stick with a green body color painted engine bay on the '74.

Julian

I have been told that bed liner will hold the moisture undernaeth and that win it is removed there is more rust than if you just painted.
Richard T.

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I have been told that bed liner will hold the moisture undernaeth and that win it is removed there is more rust than if you just painted.
Richard T.

I was told the same thing when I had my pantera undercoated.
Robert

Wurth has a product called SKS that is a stone guard that can be painted. It remains flexible, but it is not the bedliner type of material if anyone is looking at another option or would like to take a look.

Wurth SKS Stoneguard

Enjoy!

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I have been told that bed liner will hold the moisture undernaeth and that win it is removed there is more rust than if you just painted.

I have not heard that.

What I have heard is in regards to the one piece plastic bed liners that are fitted into a pickup truck bed.

THEY may very well trap moisture and lead to rust.

But I can't see how a SPRAY ON bedliner would trap moisture, and more than a SPRAY ON paint would trap moisture.

Just doesn't make sense to me.

Larry

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depending on the actual brand and color choice.

I had 2511's engine bay sprayed back in early '05 and have had great success with it. Highly recommended.

I used a one-outlet shop called Diamond Liners. The owner was a principle with Line-X, but he continued the development process and went on with his 'improved' product.

http://www.diamondliners.com/

Santa Fe Springs, CA


I describe Rhino Lining as black cottage cheese, Line-X as black fine-curd cottage cheese.

The Diamond Liner texture is a very, very fine texture (almost like an 80-grit sandpaper painted black) but smooth bumps.

As for colors, I was advised that the fine depressions/recesses will always collect some dust and dirt. Not so noticeable on black, but will require a higher degree of upkeep to maintain a good, clean look on a lighter color surface color.

I've heard Line-X now sprays a finer texture than they originally/normally do, one that is closer to the Diamond Liner texture.

I'm considering stripping my rear tub and having it coated, all sides.

A front trunk sprayed with this would probably help with sound deadening, not show wear and tear like the felt/carpet, and would surely tolerate spilled brake fluid pretty well, too.

Larry

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Someone previously raised fears of flammability but as far as I know they are unfounded.

Yea, I remember that. Topic got some talk at a recent Vegas tech session.

It may very well be flammable. So what? You've already got 20 gallons of GASOLINE in the engine bay!

Larry

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Originally posted by RichardT:
I have been told that bed liner will hold the moisture undernaeth and that when it is removed there is more rust than if you just painted.

This might be true, but of course you would never spray it on bare metal. I think that the right bed-liner product properly applied over a well painted surface would do quite well. Consider after all that the stuff is designed for an open pick-up truck bed and all the abuse that must endure. In our cars the most abuse it would see is the occasional dropped wrench. I have seen a few cars done this way and they looked pretty nice if you want a sort of stock-appearing finish without the added goo that soft tar provides. I like the look of those shiny body colored painted engine bays but I'm far too clumsy to have one look good for long.

Mark