2015 Detroit Auto Show Ford GT
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You said it Jake...!!!! And...I agree.
The fact that it has a twin turbo V-6 is a bit disappointing, especially when you consider Ford has a new flat-plane crank V8 that they could have used.
The twin-turbo V-6 power reminds me of a Noble or Rossion...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_M400
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rossion_Q1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_M400
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rossion_Q1
WHAAAAT? V6?? Thats fackin gay. 600hp or not, thats just not right.
V6...... Who the hell makes stupid decisions like that. I dont care if its 600 ft/lbs and 700 HP. A modern tribute to a race car that ran a V8 should have a V8 plain and simple. They have to realize how many people will be disappointed with that. Not to mention competing in the supercar world with those numbers is just ridiculous.
Yes,I hear You but lets face it this is a step to the future, mayby for us in Europe it is not so difficult to swallow than for the US car guys. I have a subaru with 570 nm and I love the kick when the boost comes in. The exterior of the car is fantastic specially the rear. All in all congrats to Ford for builing such a great looking car
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I very happy to hear that ford going to make the gt again . I do have to agree that putting a v6 is just a dumb. the car should have the 5.0 out of the mustang with there eco boost applied to it making about 700hp
I understand that the car is targeted for Le Mans 2016 and the rules dictated the engine configuration.
I'm pretty happy with my puff'd up V6s...although the 351C will always have a place in my heart (and ears).
I'm pretty happy with my puff'd up V6s...although the 351C will always have a place in my heart (and ears).
When I first saw the side profile of the GT it reminded me of an updated Vector W8 from the 90's.
Cool looking car but I too am a little disappointed with the V6.
Devin
Cool looking car but I too am a little disappointed with the V6.
Devin
I agree - looks like a little bit.
To be honest: The car manucaturer 'downsizing' their sportive cars like the S4/6 (V6 bi-turbo) or Jaguar (V6-supercharger - ok there is still a V8 available) Aston Martin to reach the emission requirements and reducing fuel consumption and of course being attractive to a new group o people who can't effort an V8 with incredible insurance
but like to drive an impressive brand. That's the way it goes. And the next aspect is selling cars abroad. See the Z07 Corvette (GM won't continue selling Chevrolet in Germany except the Vette and my impression is that Ford also want entering the European market with the GT...So, such an engine requires the European law admissions much easier than a V8/V12. There will be still some nice looking cars out on the market but this will more and more dissapearing.
To be honest: The car manucaturer 'downsizing' their sportive cars like the S4/6 (V6 bi-turbo) or Jaguar (V6-supercharger - ok there is still a V8 available) Aston Martin to reach the emission requirements and reducing fuel consumption and of course being attractive to a new group o people who can't effort an V8 with incredible insurance
but like to drive an impressive brand. That's the way it goes. And the next aspect is selling cars abroad. See the Z07 Corvette (GM won't continue selling Chevrolet in Germany except the Vette and my impression is that Ford also want entering the European market with the GT...So, such an engine requires the European law admissions much easier than a V8/V12. There will be still some nice looking cars out on the market but this will more and more dissapearing.
I guess that you could say that I'm the customer they want to reach (except for the fact that I can't afford it). Why? Because I'm not a Ford guy, I don't like GT40s very much and I don't like V6s. But I like this one! Looks great, I would get it if I could afford it. Well done Ford.
In my opinium a sports car needs at least a V8
Simon
Simon
V6 a huge Mistake.
I think there is a big difference between "Tribute" cars, "Continuation" and "Originals".
Tribute cars such as the Charger and Mustang to me are a little more then a fancy T-shirt with a Mustang or Charger on them. If we wake up one day and ALL are gone it would be no big loss. It would be like losing a cell phone. Don't get me wrong, I think they are good cars; far better then the original...but then again so is the latest Ford Escort or what ever you call it.
Originals are and will always be the originals. They were a benchmark for so many things in a developing industrialized society. It was about us discovering what we could do with stuff that was fun.
Continuation cars are a breed all their own. Take the Superformance Daytona Coupe. A lot of people says it does not look like the original Daytona coupe. It was never intended to be a replica.
Shelby left the United States of America for 7 years to run away form people he was into debt to. When he left he told everyone making the Cobra Kit cars, "Good luck, I didn't have any with the Cobra's".
When Shelby decided to come back to America he hunkered down and sued everyone who was building Cobra's. Most were small kit car companies with little money to defend themselves and had to cave in. One company who did not cave in was Superformance. They have money which is why they put so much R&D into some really fine cars.
Superformance aproached Peter Brock; the maker of the original Daytona Coupe. They wanted Peter Brock to build them one. Peter Brock said, I don't do kit cars. Eventually they convinced Peter brock to come visit.
When Peter Brock built the original Daytona Coupe, it was not finished...but it had to race and it was a winner. After a short period of racing, it was obsolete. They told Peter, we will give you a design team. It does not come out of this factory until you say it is done! Peter Brock agreed.
The Superformance Daytona Coupe is not a replica but a continuation car by the original builder. It was called the Brock coupe until Shelby slimmed his way in and got his name on it.
I know the original Ford GT is not exactly a continuation but in some ways it was. It certainly was built in the spirit, and packaging of a continuation car.
The latest Ford GT is losing that with the V6. It is becoming a tribute car. Even if ran in Le Mans with a V6, it SHOULD have been offered with a V8.
The original Ford Gt is a car of it's own right. In some ways it will be looked at as an original. This latest Ford GT, not so much. The "body" does look neat, but I see it more as a throw away car and not an original or a continuation car of any substance.
I think there is a big difference between "Tribute" cars, "Continuation" and "Originals".
Tribute cars such as the Charger and Mustang to me are a little more then a fancy T-shirt with a Mustang or Charger on them. If we wake up one day and ALL are gone it would be no big loss. It would be like losing a cell phone. Don't get me wrong, I think they are good cars; far better then the original...but then again so is the latest Ford Escort or what ever you call it.
Originals are and will always be the originals. They were a benchmark for so many things in a developing industrialized society. It was about us discovering what we could do with stuff that was fun.
Continuation cars are a breed all their own. Take the Superformance Daytona Coupe. A lot of people says it does not look like the original Daytona coupe. It was never intended to be a replica.
Shelby left the United States of America for 7 years to run away form people he was into debt to. When he left he told everyone making the Cobra Kit cars, "Good luck, I didn't have any with the Cobra's".
When Shelby decided to come back to America he hunkered down and sued everyone who was building Cobra's. Most were small kit car companies with little money to defend themselves and had to cave in. One company who did not cave in was Superformance. They have money which is why they put so much R&D into some really fine cars.
Superformance aproached Peter Brock; the maker of the original Daytona Coupe. They wanted Peter Brock to build them one. Peter Brock said, I don't do kit cars. Eventually they convinced Peter brock to come visit.
When Peter Brock built the original Daytona Coupe, it was not finished...but it had to race and it was a winner. After a short period of racing, it was obsolete. They told Peter, we will give you a design team. It does not come out of this factory until you say it is done! Peter Brock agreed.
The Superformance Daytona Coupe is not a replica but a continuation car by the original builder. It was called the Brock coupe until Shelby slimmed his way in and got his name on it.
I know the original Ford GT is not exactly a continuation but in some ways it was. It certainly was built in the spirit, and packaging of a continuation car.
The latest Ford GT is losing that with the V6. It is becoming a tribute car. Even if ran in Le Mans with a V6, it SHOULD have been offered with a V8.
The original Ford Gt is a car of it's own right. In some ways it will be looked at as an original. This latest Ford GT, not so much. The "body" does look neat, but I see it more as a throw away car and not an original or a continuation car of any substance.
Very well said.
In this day and age it seems that everything has to be a remake or throw back to something prior. Personally just becaue the new Ford carries the GT monicre I see no reason it has to bear semblence to a car of the same name previously.... sure comparisons will be made, but we are talking 50 years on, in reality technology has come so far there is no comparison.
If Ford had gone all out for Le Mans and the European market chances are it would have been a diesel!
If Ford had gone all out for Le Mans and the European market chances are it would have been a diesel!
Need to see the size of the engine bay. It will only take the aftermarket a few weeks to offer an installation kit for a FORD V-8. Wilkinso probably already has an engine picked out for his first swap. The Coyote is likely too wide and heavy but there are aluminum pushrod 351s....
The discussion I read indicated the body narrows significantly at the back. This may limit engine choices.
"The styling is an evolution of the GT40 from the 1960s, as well as the 2005 GT, but with a tapered body that’s so narrow in the rear that its connected to the fenders by flying buttresses, which create passages for air to flow back toward the deployable rear spoiler."
"The styling is an evolution of the GT40 from the 1960s, as well as the 2005 GT, but with a tapered body that’s so narrow in the rear that its connected to the fenders by flying buttresses, which create passages for air to flow back toward the deployable rear spoiler."
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Looks like what Jaguar might have come up with if they'd kept tweaking the XJ220 for 20+ years ... it came with a V6 Twin Turbo and I remember thinking it was a pretty cool looking car in the early '90s!
The more I stare at the GT, the more I see what looks like one car trying to swallow another from behind. The XJ220 swallowing a a Lotus Elise maybe.
The more I stare at the GT, the more I see what looks like one car trying to swallow another from behind. The XJ220 swallowing a a Lotus Elise maybe.