73 Euro GTS value

Have you personally inspected it? A thorough inspection looking for rust is paramount.

on rust yes, when was it imported to the USA ? in mid 80ties? They def changed the speedo then .. so expect different total miles ..

- the European GTS had an underbody coating. So take a look. Mine was still in decently good shape.
- other "original" features?: Flares (well I left them off still acc. 305/225),
- Leather Seats and Dash? (not the middle console),
- should have vented disks? (mine did not I had to replaced them),
- Antenna on the roof?
- De tomaso Embele on front grill is an Alu big T
- Q code engine Cobra jet? what heads? look for a 4* in one corner of the head, means with high prob. open chamber 74.x ccm,
- modifiations on engine bay, think CA requested those days the "sucking device linked to the gas tank to neutralize the gas smell (blue container in the rear right hand engine bay)
- Instrument should be in Celsius (vs F, 70 in center) and Bar (vs psi, 25 in center v 35)
- speedo ok km vs miles (watch out just conversion not necessarily working, as different pick up on gear box
Ahh: on rims you can debate, "should" 10" and 8"...

Matthias..mine is 4907

Dash is mouse hair.would that be correct?Speedo is still killometers it is a single pod with all the markings of a gts. Any idea it’s value?

That is all correct, value is whatever you are comfortable paying for it! Anything more than that would be pure speculation based on the limited information we have.

for 1973 euro gts should it have open vents in the hood? this gts does not

I don’t think original factory hood vents came in till late, the GT-5 cars?

Matthias’ car didn’t have them when it was in Arizona.

Rocky

My father's was a '73 GTS. There were no vents until he had them installed by the factory in 1982, I don't think they do much, my PB remains without vents and looks great!! As for value, several 72' and 73' are for sale in Europe for twice what they're worth here in the US. No idea what they should go for tough, I agree more specific information is needed.

- mouse hair No..Leather YES..(mouse only on Mangusta to my knowledge, well as with Pantera everything is possible )
- No hood vents as Chuck noted..
- different suspenion (I cannot judge this as too hard to identify the difference)
- pod..see picture (not my car but similar)
* big instrument set up as Euro GTS
* Switches with chrome brez.
* in my car Hazard button switch is all left vs
as here in middle
* I have only one extra warning light (red),
out of synch of Brake sytems and Park brake.
My light is between the big instruments, so not
as here..
* extra red light in the middle of dash between
vents for seat belt (I did close this when
rebuilded my car as no need CA rep. of the years)

get us some pictures

Matthias ...4907 per Vin built in Nov 1972



Matthias

The challenge with a Euro GTS is that everyone likes to think they have one, because there is no identifier in the VIN (unlike US GTS cars).

So it's just some subtle differences, the mouse hair dash, clock mounted in the passenger side dash etc. all of which can be easily copied.

Only the original factory paper work can confirm if it's a real (Euro) GTS or not.

I have seen original of the GTS mouse hair dash are replaced many years ago.
The quality from the mouse hair upholstery on the dash and seats is very bad

Simon

at least there is a register what was originally importe to the US ..

..and then there is a lot of evidence for EU or not..so my experinece in digging through it..

Matthias ...4907

Did they make a non GTS euro car in 1973?

My car 3840 is a 72 Euro GTS, I have factory paperwork proving this. another more knowledgeable Pantera owner in The netherlands suggested that my car should be worth Euro's 110K.
The car is now renovated to a good standard, but original pics are in Provamo if that would help.

no idea how to put pics on here sadly, to old to learn too!

quote:

Originally posted by Peter Fenlon:
My car 3840 is a 72 Euro GTS,...
no idea how to put pics on here sadly, to old to learn too!

glad to assist

Right side

Engine pull

Front

Left rear

Rear

Right rear w PF

Right rear

Thanks for pics. The way it sits I think it’s worth more then 110k euro. Any interior pics. Also wheels is that a option color. Any chance if posting factory document. Thanks so much

So, it looks like the last 2 pics are of the car before the deck lid and lower side rockers were painted black.

Also, looks like a 10" Campy on the driver-side rear, and an 8" Campy on the passenger-side rear.

After I had the car painted all solid red, I didn't like it, so decided to get it as far as I knew similar to factory colour choices.

I had the bonnet and boot painted black, which looked a lot better, I then had the Pantera "Decals" fitted, I didn't want to, I thought it might be too "Bling?" but they do now look quite good, as for the wheels, I always liked the Lamborgini Miura's Gold wheels so thats the reason for the paint.

I also treated myself by buying a pair of 10" Campagnolo clones from Roin industries in Italy.

and finally fitted Scott Bells electric power steer kit, which I do like very much.

Turns out car is a true survivor. Orig paint orig engine and orig interior. It has 29k kilometers I had to pay a lot $$ but soo much originality had to pay! Will post some pics after it gets delivered. Thank you soo much for responses and feedback!!

Hello Max they do say that you get what you pay for.

I hope you love it.

That is unless you are me then the saying is you get a whole lot more than you bargained for!