Clutch pedal woes ...

Holy cow George, that is a nightmare. Getting stuck intraffic. What do you think is wrong?? Does it feel funny, or does it feel like something came unhooked or is it like it won't even push in?? What are the symptoms????

Hi DeTom,

Situation like that makes one's rear end pucker. LOL.....

The pedal pushes in very easily now, it just doesn't create any hydraulic pressure & the clutch doesn't disengage.

The 30 year old master or slave have thrown in the towel. I'll replace both plus the red hydraulic hose will be replaced with a nice braided steel one.

What do you think, time for a buttery nipple, eh?

George

Yeah you deserve a good stiff BN George. When I did my engine last winter, I got a new master and slave from Hall Pantera. It even came with fancy colored nuts and everything. Give bev a call and she can have the parts to you by this weekend. Don't forget to bleed them after you install though. They take a whole lot of bleeding to get all the air bibbles out. I am glad you didn't get hit.

Thanks my friend.

By the way, I see you're an "old" pro now. Ugh, I hated that Karma!

LOL......................

your friend on the DTBB, George

George,

I just got off of that train. The symptom was the same, floppy pedal, no clutch disengagement. It was the clutch master. Do you remember the thread (Floppy Clutch Pedal)?

Michael

Yeah Michael, I remember.

Maybe these things come in bunches?

your friend on the DTBB, George

quote:

Maybe these things come in bunches?

George,

Absolutely! While on last weekend's PCNC Paso Robles wine tasting tour, my Quella internal hydraulic throw out bearing must have spun itself out of adjustment, and there is no pedal free play anymore. Which probably means that if not now, then very soon, the throwout bearing will start spinning with the pressure plate fingers, which will soon destroy the rubber quad seals (square o-rings) in the bearing. So rather than find myself in your 'dead on the road' position, I have a ZF removal chore also. By the way, I (along with Dennis Quella) do not recommend the hydraulic bearing for a street car. NO external adjustment, quad seals are known to dry out if not regularly used (not a problem for me), and a pain to set up properly. Cleans up the bellhousing look, but at a cost. I bought 2511 with this upgrade installed. Too much $$ and trouble to gather all the removed parts to return to stock.

Good luck George!

Larry

Larry, thanks for the good luck, and the same to you my friend. Seems you have more clutch pedal than you need and I don't have any!

your friend on the DTBB, George

Hey George,
Sorry to hear about your troubles, I may have the originials out of 6808 (spares that came with the car)if you want to pick them up in Irvine tomorrow, will be working on a fellow owners Pantera project, need my car fix you know. Any how let me know.
949-795-1991
Regards Mark

George, only have master this weekend, slave spare is with 6808 at the shop. I'll look for it Monday.
Regards Mark

Interesting. What is the color of the hydraulic fluid in the master reservoir and how often do you change the fluid?

Mike

LOL.................

Mike my friend, I read your question a little while ago and I thought to myself, oh hell. Your question about the age of the fluid made me think about the "level" of the fluid! Well, I hadn't checked the fluid since the beginning of the driving season, last spring. At the time it was about 1/3 full. couldn't be I thought to myself.... no way.... I didn't even consider ....I was stuck thinking a 30 year old part had finally given up, I never considered to check the fluid level!

I ran downstairs a moment ago, popped the bonnet open & sure enough the fluid was at the lower limit of the plastic reservoir, you know, where the tapered bottom meets the verticle sides. I stuck my finger in the fluid to see how far above the connection to the master's port the fluid actually was, well, not much. DOH!

I poured some Castrol LMA in the reservoir and started pumping the clutch pedal and the pedal started getting harder to push. I started the car, pushed the clutch pedal & sure enough, I had clutch again! I can shift gears without drag or grinding.

Mike, you get the Sherlock Holmes award & I get the bumbling Dr. Watson award. Thanks Mike, I owe you one my friend.

your friend on the DTBB, feeling a bit foolish, George