Well we all know which event Larry is going to but how about PI and POCA?

Who is endorsing which?

I'm going to whichever I think is going to have the most cars....not just Panteras.
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Well we all know which event Larry is going to but how about PI and POCA?

Big Grin

POCA has already said they endorse the new event - go back and the read earlier postings in this thread.

PI is still fence sitting until at least May - again, go back and read the earlier postings.

My loyalty is to our cars and our designer, and unless C.I. can clone Tom, he is only going to be at LDV.
Larry
Well I don't think it's so cut and dry yet, there's a definite momentum in supporting the CI event, and not the 'breakaway gang'. If the other Italian marques like Alfa and Maserati endorse CI too, what does that leave for LDV? Probably just all the non Italian/Euro cars that parked on the out field at CI previously, not much 'Dolce Vita' in that!

As George stated with two overlapping and competing events, one ultimately will fail.
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Originally posted by LF - TP 2511:
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Lamborghini Club America and Valentino Balbo



And as for Valentino Balbo........

who? Confused

Still heavily leaning to the new event, La Dolce Vita, at Black Horse.

I want Tom to sign some stuff for me. Wink


Larry


Valentino Balboni is Lambo's test driver since the 60's. He never had another job but at Lambo. Started as an apprentice and then moved to testing cars. He is a nice guy and certainly does not fit the image of a Lambo driver.
There is a nice story -which he claims to be 100% true- when testing a Countach his break pedal used to refuse service; when he finally managed to pull the car over he saw the problem a young cat was stuck between the pedal and the floorboard. He claims it was a black cat...
Some history; ofcourse I do realize that your Valentino who could be cynisism and I am making a complete donkey of myself, but hey hard to spot in posts...(the donkey and the cynisism..)

Michel
I met Valentino at the Le Belle Macchine d'Italia Pocono event a few years ago. (FWIW, the people who run the Pocono event are the same ones running the La Dolce Vita.)

The follow is an excerpt from my trip report at http://www.realbig.com/piperma...-October/089039.html


Just before lunch, I hopped into (well, folded myself into) a Lamborghini Murciélago for some hot laps with Valentino Balboni at the wheel. Just before I got in, Valentino expressed some concerns about the tires but decided to go out anyway. Despite visions of the Space Shuttle o-rings and heat tiles in the back of my mind, I got in, after all this was the Valentino Balboni.

www.portata.com/panteraadventu...ges/balboni_tire.jpg

Valentino does not like to wear a helmet despite his wild, high-speed driving style, so they had his head examined. If you look closely, you can see a blue inspection sticker on the side of his face, which he actually wore all day. He also sported red, white, and blue arm bands -- he knows his audience.

Even with a helmet, I was able to squeeze into the Murciélago then buckle up with the center-mounted seatbelts with not too much trouble.

While we were waiting for the hand signal to go, Valentino checked out the curves ahead as any good Italian driver would.

www.portata.com/panteraadventu...s/balboni_curves.jpg

We rolled through the pits and queued up in a long line to get on the track. This gave us a chance to talk about the Murciélago and about Panteras (Ah, they are ah nice ah car.)

When we got the signal, we effortlessly rollout onto the track at 100 mph and into a high banked turn. While other cars got high up on the bank, Valentino actually just apexed the turn as is if were a gentle sweeper. After hitting 170 on the back straight, we unexpectedly (at least to me) came to a chicane with a 90-degree turn that abruptly took us from the very wide oval track onto what looked like a golf cart road in the infield.

If you have seen Balboni in person or on the Top Gear episode, you know that he likes to drift the corners. The scary part is not the drifting. It's not the drifting at insane speeds. It's the passing cars in the corner at insane speeds with all four tires disconnected from the pavement.
Tom Tjaarda has confirmed his attendance at the Concorso Italiano with Tom McDowell

It seems Tom Tjaarda's appearance at LDV was greatly exaggerated

FYI - Frank Mandarano, the founder of Concorso Italiano, has joined Tom McDowell as a consultant. Frank has told me in a phone conversation that the following clubs are on board for the concorso:

Ferrari Club of America
Ferrari Owners Club
The Lamborghini Club
ISO Club
Fiat Club

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Tom Tjaarda has confirmed his attendance at the Concorso Italiano with Tom McDowell

Okay, Now I'm heavily leaning to attending C.I. Wink

Larry
LOL....
You old ladies are just too funny....

Anyone still going to La Dolce Vita with Mark and Larry, hope you like Masaratti's.

I'm still laughing....See you guys at Concorso...
(Love you Larry)

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Originally posted by LF - TP 2511
POCA has already said they endorse the new event - go back and the read earlier postings in this thread.
PI is still fence sitting until at least May - again, go back and read the earlier postings.
My loyalty is to our cars and our designer, and unless C.I. can clone Tom, he is only going to be at LDV.
Larry

[QUOTE]Originally posted by LF - TP 2511:
Okay, Now I'm heavily leaning to attending C.I. Wink
Larry
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Putting on one of these events is almost like herding cattle roll on floor

Damn I need a Pantera I'm feeling left behind.
Don't get me wrong I love my Pantera as much as the next guy!
But, has Tom McDowell, or Frank Mandarano contacted the Pantera clubs yet? Once again it seems like the Pantera is just a Red headed stepchild!
It seems like they may not care if the Panteras are there or not! I'd like to think I'm wrong! It was nice that they contacted Tom Tjaarda! Does he even own a Pantera? Just my 02cents! Besides its too costly for me this year being unemployed.

Love my red headed stepchild
Curt



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Originally posted by Cowboy from Hell:
Tom Tjaarda has confirmed his attendance at the Concorso Italiano with Tom McDowell

It seems Tom Tjaarda's appearance at LDV was greatly exaggerated

FYI - Frank Mandarano, the founder of Concorso Italiano, has joined Tom McDowell as a consultant. Frank has told me in a phone conversation that the following clubs are on board for the concorso:

Ferrari Club of America
Ferrari Owners Club
The Lamborghini Club
ISO Club
Fiat Club

Curt,

Kerry McMullen (LDV) had not attempted to contact me until last week.

The Concorso remains in contact with Pantera International throughout the year every year. Tom McDowell has been in contact with me since he came on board.

We are not red-headed step children. The Concorso Italiano has always given the Pantera corral special consideration, much to the chagrin of the Lamborghini owners. The last many years at the Black Horse we were located in a big open area just outside the clubhouse, situated between the club house and the stadium. Ours was the first corral people saw when they enter the event. Our location is very high profile on purpose, because the event organizers realize the Panteras are good at attracting attention & wowing the attendees. Frank Mandanano told me today the Concorso plans to give our corral such a location again.

-G
Thanks George for the update!
I stand Corrected!
Curt

QUOTE]Originally posted by Cowboy from Hell:
Curt,

Kerry McMullen (LDV) had not attempted to contact me until last week.

The Concorso remains in contact with Pantera International throughout the year every year. Tom McDowell has been in contact with me since he came on board.

We are not red-headed step children. The Concorso Italiano has always given the Pantera corral special consideration, much to the chagrin of the Lamborghini owners. The last many years at the Black Horse we were located in a big open area just outside the clubhouse, situated between the club house and the stadium. Ours was the first corral people saw when they enter the event. Our location is very high profile on purpose, because the event organizers realize the Panteras are good at attracting attention & wowing the attendees. Frank Mandanano told me today the Concorso plans to give our corral such a location again.

-G[/QUOTE]
I spoke with Frank today and Frank assured me we will have a PRIME location for the 50th Celebration of DeTomaso to conduct our event production, which he is very much looking forward to and is more than willing to help with our success....
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I did talk with George and he is very correct in that I always saw to it in the old days that our friends in the DeTomaso community were given some of the best real-estate at CI. This I am sure will continue with Tom.
I am really enjoying working with Tom at CI and we have some terrific plans coming your way, some of which you already know about. Other very important news will be breaking very soon. The event is returning to the days when Janet and I ran the show. Now this doesn't mean you will see me blasting around on my red Vespa yelling at people to "move their cars" it will be the silver Vespa! Just kidding, no Vespa this year for me. I add value by coordinating with the Italian special guest and other special ways.
For example "HOT COFFEE" in the AM. There is no excuse for an exhibitor to not have a hot cup of coffee and a tasty muffin in the early morning upon arrival. Oh you may ask where in the hell did Major Chili come from?
Well being a big time movie fan I loved the Chili Palmer character in Be Cool with John Travolta but it was taken so Major Chili, anyway who cares? Most of these handles are pretty stupid so Major Chili fits right in.
Remind me to tell you the story of DeTomaso at dinner in the Canalgrande when the soup spilled and he pulled his gun out and everybody scrambled for the floor. There are dozens of these stories.

I am really looking forward to a great 50th annaversary at CI and seeing all those fantistic panteras most of which can blow the panties off most F-cars.
I hope you will all plan to join us.
Ciao,
Francis G. Mandarano aka FGM aka Major Chili
63 Maserati Quattroporte 2nd car produced
67 Maserati Quattroporte second sires
05 Ferrari 360 Spider manual


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Curt,

Frank Mandanano told me today the Concorso plans to give our corral such a location again.

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So now that we have established that PI is endorsing Concorso, that Tom T is going to be at Concorso, and it is DeTomaso's 50th, Who plans on attending Concorso ?

I would like to get a rough idea on how many DeTomaso's plan on attending and what models will be there.

Since it is DeTomaso's 50th, we are planning some things that will be special to mark this event as an event, for those that bring their DeTomaso's, the layout of the corral, additional guest associated with DeTomaso along with Tom T, trophies for this special occasion and other things we have in mind.

We are working on getting some very rare and special DeTomaso's there as well...

The 50th is very important to us and we want to make sure that we make a statement at Concorso that represents DeTomaso and it's community in all it's glory...

We have the full support of Tom and Frank of Concorso and they also want to contribute to our success in making our showing the best possible to celebrate this occasion and honor DeTomaso.

Please let me know if you are attending and what DeTomaso you will be bringing so that we can start planning and mapping out the displays and information boards that will set up around the corral.

Thanks.
Coz
Coz, I don't know where you want the responses, so I'll leave it here. We will be attending the Concorso with our newly restored 74L. Steve & Kim Griffin
Steve, this is a perfect place for it so we can all see who's coming and what their bringing...
Thanks.
Coz

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Coz, I don't know where you want the responses, so I'll leave it here. We will be attending the Concorso with our newly restored 74L. Steve & Kim Griffin
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Coz,

I plan to attend with the GT5, keep a special spot for her Wink

Julian
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Originally posted by MBLotus:
... We will be attending the Concorso with our newly restored 74L ... Steve & Kim Griffin


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Originally posted by Joules5:
... I plan to attend with the GT5, keep a special spot for her ... Julian


Steve, Julian, great news, you know I always enjoy spending time & chatting with both of you.
Absolutely Julian....
She will always have a special spot in my heart, and at Concorso as well.

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Originally posted by Joules5:
Coz,
I plan to attend with the GT5, keep a special spot for her Wink
Julian
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Dear Enthusiast,

I would personally like to invite you to join us at this year's Concorso Italiano presented on the beautiful fairways of the Laguna Seca Golf Ranch, Friday, August 14th.

We have been diligently working to restore Concorso to what you remember it to be. Over the past several weeks we have been providing updates about our special programs, honored guests, and car club support. We want to keep you informed so that you can see the progress that is being made. Frank and Janet Mandarano, as advisers, have been instrumental in building this 24th edition of the Concorso to include the following features and guests:
• The Ferrari 288 GTO 25th anniversary reunion inspired by Joe and Margaret Sackey. We are anticipating over 15 of these supercars.
• The 50th anniversary celebration of the founding of DeTomaso.
• Matteo and Luca Fioravanti, whose father Leonardo managed the designs of the Ferrari 288 GTO and many other Ferraris and Alfa Romeos.
• Tom Tjaarda, the designer of the Pantera will introduce his impressive Tjaarda PSV. (Personal Security Vehicle)
• Valentino Balboni, test-driver for Lamborghini.
• Lilli Bertone (wife of Giuseppe "Nuccio" Bertone) and Michael Robinson, Brand Manager and Design Director of Bertone Cento. We will have a small display of selected Bertone cars including some Alfas and Fiats designed by Bertone.

Keith Martin, long-time publisher of Sports Car Market and collector-car personality has returned as MC, to share his wit and knowledge with you. Concorso favorite Alan Richmond joins him as MC.

Concorso Founders Frank and Janet Mandarano are back, providing their vision and extensive contacts in the Italian automotive community to bring very special people to Concorso, just as they used to. FYI, Frank's very successful Car Guy Tour gets underway on Sept 27th to Oct.7th. The Tour visits places you only dreamed of: contact Frank at (206) 310-8380 or visit www.carguytour.com.

Most importantly, as the new owner of Concorso, you have my pledge that Concorso will be the absolute best all-Italian car event on the peninsula, just as it used to be. I guarantee there will be lots of complimentary hot coffee in the morning for exhibitors, and that exhibitors will enjoy the comfort of their respective hospitality tent and the camaraderie of their fellow enthusiasts.

If you're coming as a spectator, you'll be able to park on-site on the fairway and won't have to deal with bussing, which can be a time-wasting nightmare under the best of circumstances.

In short, when you make your plans for Friday, August 14th, I urge you to put Concorso Italiano at the top of your list. It will be the best Concorso ever.

Here are some of the clubs that have officially endorsed the new Concorso, and that will have an official presence:

Ferrari Club of America-Pacific Region
Pantera International
Ferrari Owners Club
Lamborghini Club America
FIAT America
Iso-Bizzarrini Club
Allanté Club of America
American Lancia Club

For more information about Concorso, see our website at www.concorso.com. To purchase tickets and/or register your vehicle, click here www.concorso.com/tickets.htm. Don't delay; best pricing is still available. I look forward to seeing you at Concorso.

Sincerely,
Tom McDowell
Owner, Concorso Italiano
(425) 742-0632
Now that The FCA and LCA have "officially" endorsed Concorso, who does that leave at La Dolce Vita? Are we going to have half of our cars at one event and half at another? A bunch of us from Canada are seriously considering making the trip with our cars, but it will be a shame if we are split into two camps. Has POCA offically endorsed one over the other? I gather that PI has made Concorso its official choice.

I have been watching both Concourse sites and haven't seen much evolution at La Dolce, so I am hoping the critical mass is with Concorso and there will be one GREAT event and not two marginal ones. Can any of you guys going to the "other" even post your thoughts and intentions, especially if you have changed your minds from earlier posts.

Thanks!
Mark
POCA will provide information about both events on the POCA website and in the POCA Newsletter as well as in the forums but will take no "official" stand.
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POCA will provide information about both events ... but will take no "official" stand.


Why?
More news from Concorso on what going on...

1. 50th Anniversary of DeTomaso
2. 25th Anniversary reunion of the Ferrari 288GTO
3. Tom Tjaarda
4. Lilli Bertone and Michael Robinson
5. Valentino Balboni
6. Matteo and Luca Fioravanti
7. Hospitality is provided for all Exhibitors which includes hot coffee, pastries in the AM, fruit, bar snacks, and bottled water all day.
8. A separate entrance for Exhibitors. Spectators will have free on-site parking.
9. A broad selection of food and beverage choices.
10. A special guest who will be receiving the La Bella Macchina award
11. A broad selection of vendors (with profiles of selected vendors to
be announced in the coming days.
12. The Elvis Presley Pantera, on loan courtesy of the Peterson Museum
Early Bird Pricing to Close June 30th

This is a quick reminder that the last day for Concorso Italiano’s early bird pricing is Tuesday, June 30th. We urge you to visit www.concorso.com to take advantage of the special prices before they change.
The following features are only a portion of the special experience that awaits you on the lovely lawns of Laguna Seca Golf Ranch on Friday, August 14th:

• DeTomaso, the 50th Anniversary
• Ferrari 288GTO, the 25th Anniversary and the largest ever gathering of this Ferrari
supercar
• Tom Tjaarda, the legendary designer and his latest concepts
• Valentino Balboni, renowned Lamborghini test driver
• Lilli Bertone and Michael Robinson of Bertone Cento
• Matteo and Luca Fioravanti of Fioravanti SRL, creator of the 288GTO
• Many exciting cars in the Concorso Centerpiece Display including:
o Elvis Presley’s famous Pantera, with the bullet hole intact
o The Tjaarda special Pantera
o The famous Bertone-designed BAT 11
o The 1955 Ghia Gilda Coupe Concept
o As mentioned, the largest ever gathering of the 288GTO
• A cornucopia of culinary delights
• Sun, heat, and the summer weather you expect
• On site parking, with NO BUSING
• Fashion, music, and the full restoration of a legendary event
• A special award ceremony to honor Jay Leno, car collector and entertainer
If you are looking for raw energy, and a sea of bright colors join us at Concorso Italiano for the annual celebration of Italian style. If you want solitude, there are probably a few city parks where you can convene.
The party is at Laguna Seca Golf Ranch on Friday, dont miss it.

Admission Tickets
• $85 through June 30
• $100 July 1 - August 14
• Children 12 and under are free
when accompanied by a paying adult.
Includes:
• One Admission Ticket
• Complimentary On-site Parking
• Event Goody Bag
• Collector's Magazine
(while supplies last)
Food will be available
throughout the event!


Italian Vehicle
•$100 through June 30
•$150 July 1 - August 13
• Children 12 and under are free
when accompanied by a paying adult.
Includes:
• Entrance for your registered vehicle
• Entry for two vehicle occupants as the vehicle enters the event
• Two Vouchers for the Italian Vehicle Hospitality Pavilion
• Event Goody Bag per person
• Collector's Magazine per person (while supplies last)
*all other guests or handlers in your party must purchase an additional admission ticket


Italian Motorcycles
• $75 through August 13
• Children 12 and under are free
when accompanied by a paying adult.
Includes:
• Entrance for your registered
motorcycle and yourself into the event
• One voucher for the Ducati Hospitality Pavilion
• One Event Goodie Bag
• Collector's Magazine (while supplies last)
• An additional ticket is available at a discounted rate of $25 for Motorcycle passengers (limit 1)

*all other guests or handlers in your party must purchase an additional admission
ticket at full price.

Non-Italian Vehicle
•$150 through June 30
•$200 July 1 - August 13
• Children 12 and under are free
when accompanied by a paying adult.
Includes:
• Entrance for your registered vehicle
• Entry for two vehicle occupants as the vehicle enters the event
• Two Vouchers for the Non-Italian Vehicle Hospitality Pavilion
• Event Goody Bag per person
• Collector's Magazine per person (while supplies last)
*all other guests or handlers in your party must purchase an additional admission ticket.
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