Fixer-upper?

No! As much as I'd love to see it resurrected, there's nothing there but a pile of rusted steel shaped somewhat like a Pantera. It's too far gone. I fear to restore this one would cost 3x the price of a nice running car.

I'm sure folks with more experience than I will chime in.

Wow.

I recently saw a Longchamp advertised that was so rusted the suspension was collapsing. I made what I thought was a fair offer on it (for parts basically), but it had already sold for $8500. It's a crazy world out there.

Mark

LOL. Does that come with a bottle of RoundUp? Not worth the gas it would take to haul it to a scrap yard.

Or, call Richard at Gas Monkey, he could probably flip it for thousands.

If all the parts was there Way not?



Kjeld

I just called about it. And no....I'm not going to buy it. I already have one that needs to be finished. I was just curious if the ZF was with it and of course it's not. It's not a '74 because the VIN # is THPNM004058. That puts it closer to a '72. The seller is sending me pictures. I'll post them once he sends them in case anyone else is interested in knowing more about this beast.

I bought my car from this seller.
They did send me many many pictures, when I sent them a letter stating the condition of the car when I received it, they refunded a thousand dollars, Its still not on the road and I have much more to do to get it roadworthy.

I was not "in the Pantera loop" and paid around $16000 more than it was actually worth, then the costs of shipping to England, they even charged me over $200 to drive it to the port of embarkation! which wasn't so far away..

It will I hope be a grand motor car when I have made some improvements, but I would stress to folk who are looking for a De Tomaso to do much homework and join the clubs for sound advice.

I have been very fortunate to have help from Mike Drew, who's advice and assistance has been invaluable, top man.

Here's more pictures of this car.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/...s/72157645992529349/

Thanks,

Chance Dorsey

That is pitiful.
Why in the world would anyone let a beautiful car disintegrate like that?

You would be hard pressed to find 5 parts worth saving it seems. The body itself looks like it was dropped from a height. Unless it belonged to Marilyn Monroe, it's a gone'r. I see wrecks from time to time that I get the urge to save. Not this one. I only have one life.

Remember 9189? It was bad, but not as bad,

http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/...000087345#2000087345

Looks like 8K for a door handle, some trim parts and two gauges...

And a wheel or two....

quote:

Originally posted by OnTheJuice:
And a wheel or two....

"We" collectively as the Pantera Community need to STOP feeding these delusional sellers & their "Pie in the sky asking prices". Let them languish with their literally "Piles of Rust" & come to the full realization that there is a "limited Real Value" & NOT "1" penney more...Mark

[/QUOTE] "We" collectively as the Pantera Community need to STOP feeding these delusional sellers & their "Pie in the sky asking prices". Let them languish with their literally "Piles of Rust" & come to the full realization that there is a "limited Real Value" & NOT "1" penney more...Mark[/QUOTE]

I would agree, but it seems like often times those "piles of rust" sell at full price or near to it.....maybe not this one. It is as bad as I have ever seen

I think much of it is supply and demand. Problem is there are good cars available for $50K. Paying $8k for a rust bucket will cost more in the long run. I think many uninformed people think they can repair / reconstruct this at home saving $$. The other theory I have is the import / export market. It is much cheaper to import a hunk of junk worth $ and pay duties on $ than a decent $50k car. Just a theory.

In the long run anything can be saved... the question is what is it worth to you?
I keep telling my wife the Pantera in the garage is going up in price, redone, complete, running/ driver, new paint, best guess worth $45-50 large (ps not for sale).
She says it is worth what someone will pay.

Short stort when I moved after my fathers death 2006(my mom passed in 1999) my sister and brother were also moving, we had a big tag sale, I became so frustrated that the items that I paid big dollars for, I priced at 5 cents on the dollar did not sell.
The people showed up "lookelou's for Calders and Rembrants" after 3 hours I held up a $100 bill and called their attention to it, I stated what am I bid for the $100 bill ... after 2 min nobody said a word (idiots)! I threw them out and bought my sister things, gave my brother a c note and bought his stuff, and called 1800 got junk. So I guess my wife is right.
So in not so short... can it be saved yes... is it worth $8000 not a chance, $800 maybe. I think I will pass...!

This looks a far more interesting prospect for someone looking for a project, $12,900 current bid

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-...68&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

Julian

quote:

Originally posted by Joules:
This looks a far more interesting prospect for someone looking for a project, $12,900 current bid

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-...68&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

Julian

Well, maybe a slightly straighter body, but still a horribly rusted car that will take many (tens of?) hundreds of hours to reconstruct. I can't imagine having so much time on my hands that a car as far gone as these would make any sense at all. It is a crazy market and I can't imagine it will last much longer.

Mark

If that's worth 8grand mine must be worth 200 wow! they have really gone up!

quote:

Originally posted by OnTheJuice:
8K for this?

http://www.gullwingmotorcars.c...-pantera-c-1854.htm?

I hope they (the rusties) all go over to our scandinavian friends who seem to be able to make a silk purse from a sows ear. The skills and patience of those guys amazes me.

Kjeld.

1898 - 6672 - 9053.

It's going to sell, figure it out: At current 140 to one Euro, they get a 40% discount on the car after the exchange. they are buying it for 5 or 6 grand. The ZF is worth more than that.In Europe that ZF will sell ofr big $$$. Then the car is free! lol

quote:

Originally posted by Kjeld Pedersen:


Kjeld.

1898 - 6672 - 9053.

quote:

Originally posted by PLT-1:
Looks like 8K for a door handle, some trim parts and two gauges...

The ZF is the ticket PLT. The door handle analogy is a good one, I like it!! The car is free after that. I figure it like this: The Euro is 140 to 1:00, after exchange someone is buying that car for a 40% discount. It will sell, like it or not, but after monetary exchange, some European will have 5 grand in the car. It will part out for a lot more, doors, electrics, hood, fenders, deck, roof, you get the picture. Shark

the car sold. hard to believe wonder what the saleing price was. I think some of you guys forgot it did not have the zf

Though the car looks pretty complete, the rust on this Ghibli looks pretty extensive too. Wonder what the, "Please Call" price is?

http://www.beverlyhillscarclub...hibli-4.7-c-3209.htm

A few more photos of that gem from Gullwing Motor Cars......