Goldline Brakes

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Given my plans are to rebuild for relaibility and fun cruzzing, would putting ~$600 in stock calipers be wasting or saving money versus Wilwood calipers?

If your goal is to keep the car stock then it would NOT be wasting money.

If your gold is performance and long term maintenance and affordability, then you WOULD be wasting your money.

You could do a Wilwood upgrade to the rear calipers for $500.00. The performance and weight savings are superb for such a small investment.

Take care, Scott

Thanks Scott,
I am concerding the Wilwood Caliper Upgrade Kit for stock rotors plus a few more componenets, but when I got a google hit for that site, then got an email estimate from them and thus giving me something to think about.

I doubt, I will ever push the car hard enough to notice the Wilwood performance increase, I just wanted to be comforted in my decission.

BTW what is difference between Black and Red (other than color and price)?

If your goal is reliability and cruising, then why change from the stock Girlings? They are definitely up for the task and yours have presumably worked well for the last 40+ years.

In my experience, the two best (essential, actually) changes one can make to the stock brakes are:

1) replace the flex lines with braided stainless-wrapped modern hoses, and;
2) replace the stock pads with Porterfield R4-S pads.
I have done both on my white car and the difference was amazing.

If your stock callipers are seizing up (car pulls to one side or doesn't modulate smoothly when applying brakes), then a simple seal kit (and possibly a piston or two if they are pitted) will make them like new. These are surprisingly simple to overhaul/rebuild and don't even require any special tools beyond what you likely already have, plus a compressed air source if the pistons are sticking.

If you can lock up your wheels on hard braking, you probably don't need new callipers UNLESS you will be doing some aggressive driving or track-time. If the later is the case, then the Willwoords, as Scott suggests, is definitely the way to go.

Mark

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...and yours have presumably worked well for the last 40+ years. ...

ah, for the last 30+ years they have been sitting on a shelf

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ah, for the last 30+ years they have been sitting on a shelf

Then A rebuild is most likely in order.

I don't know about you guys but I tried to use the stock front calipers and it didn't work well for me. I bought a rebuild kit from one of the vendors and installed it (yes the bores and the pistons were in good shape) after a few months one began to leak. I chalked it up to an inferior rebuild kit. I decided to install the Willwood on all 4's from SACC. Guess what no leaks.

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Originally posted by JFB #05177:

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...and yours have presumably worked well for the last 40+ years. ...

ah, for the last 30+ years they have been sitting on a shelf

Well in that case half the work is already done!

Nothing to loose by pulling them apart and having a look. If you don't rebuild them, I'd certainly trust Scott and Willwoods as a great solution rather than using a lesser-known brake kit. Good luck!

Mark

before I posted asking about Goldline, I did search here and found a referance to a brake shop closer by (other side of state versus country). Since I got a very reasonable estimate from Goldline I requested a quote from the shop in NC. While both shops offer the same service and replied they recently rebuilt Pantera calipers, there quotes were very far apart.

Like 5X more! so using the quote from NC shop, the choice of going with the SACC kit would be a no brainer!

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If you can lock up your wheels on hard braking, you probably don't need new callipers

I guess I am missing the point here can you explain this comment please.
Jeff

Thanks to Throttle, I got his old calipers that were in excellent condition. Gold Line did a rebuild and I now have a like new set of original calipers waiting for a car to put them on.

I would recommend Gold Line (John Slipper)

I have used Goldmine Brakes to rebuild/rebore the master brake and clutch cylinder on 2 of my Panteras with perfect results. I wanted stock original masters instead of non correct aftermarket cylinders which stand out like a sore thumb.

I am thinking about the same.