Have Vader window lifts? READ THIS

Thanks for this super helpful post!

Thanks for posting this. I have Vader window lifts in my Pantera.

Has Vader been contacted about this issue?  If so, have they any comments?

I too have the Vader system.

That is a good idea and that is what I have just now done.

I imagine they buy the entire motor and regulator assembly as one piece.

I have no idea whether the assemblies will be including the upgraded motor.

certainly not an error on their part. They, like the rest of us, assume Ford knows how to design a long-lasting component.  🤷‍♂️

Larry

PRICE UPDATE—

In a fine display of capitalism, our recent purchases of the motors from rock auto have perhaps triggered some algorithm, as they have raised the prices on both motors.

Supply and demand has always been the core of good business practice; have they perhaps programmed  their ordering system to increase prices upon increased demand ????

Just wondering……… 🤔🤔

Larry

Larry,

After reading your posting, I decided to buy a pair of motors for my spare parts bin. Sure enough, 252 was $22.79 and 253 was $27.79. Mind you, they only charged me $7.99 for shipping! First thing I'll do, when they arrive, is check to confirm they do indeed have the steel hub.

When the crack develops, do the motors stop working or do they just not work as well? I've noticed lately, my windows don't go up and down as easily as they used to.

UPDATE: Yes, they do have the steel hub.

David,

they stop working, or so I’ve been told. The symptom is the steel hex not getting a tight enough contact due to the crack  

Motor turns, repeatedly clicks, as it tries to rotate the gear

Larry

David,

Mine continued to work, but there was a loud clicking sound when the window was fully up and when fully down, but only if the window switch was held in the on position.  

John

Larry,

I had called Vader (Rick) a few months ago, and was told that he had heard of a few others with the same problem.  The answer was to try to find the earlier style motor with the metal gear.  

John

Thanks for the info, a big help. I have already replaced one of the vader assemblies and now the other one is acting up. Love the Vader windows set up but the plastic gear is the weak link. I just ordered both sides.

How has the motor swap work out?  Any issues, modifications etc... or was it a direct replacement?

No first-hand information but another owner has performed the swap and said it was a simple unbolt-remove-install rebolt process.

Larry

I had this happen several years ago and when I spoke to Rick, he gave me the replacement part numbers, Cardone 82-383 and 82-382. After replacing both motors they worked fine until a couple of weeks ago, when the passenger window starting going up in a slow jerky manner. After I removed the motor and inspected the gear the failure was different than the original motors and can be fixed easily (cheaply). If you have this type of motor there are 3 plastic gear plugs inside that flatten and allow the gear to slip under load. You can buy replacement plugs, Dorman 74410, for $10 at Oriellys, $6 on Rock Auto and various other places. I can not speak to the motor Larry posted a picture of, since it is different than the Cardone motors, but if they have the plastic plugs under the metal gear they should be able to be fixed in the same manner.

It has been some months since I went down that rabbit hole but I think you have the second generation improvement but the rock auto motors are third generation.

or something like that. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Larry