Hood vents

Wilkinson has them for $110, I know of an owner who purchased them a year ago and was very happy with the quality.

https://panterapartsusa.myshop...e-set-r-l-hood-vents

Dan,

I have an order to place with Wylkinson, if you want we can group and share the shipping costs.

Hello Rene, you are in France?   Thanks "Joules" for the link to the vents. Sure why not, I'm ok to buy from Wilkinson..

Thanks, Dan

Oui, je suis en Corrèze.

Le jeu. 11 janv. 2024, 21:18, The De Tomaso Forums <alerts@crowdstack.com>
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Unloved????  We all now beauty is subjective, However, I love the rectangular vented look!!!  I love them on the Miura as well.  Only wish I had a Miura in my garage to keep the Panteras company.

Here's your grills.  Nicely made stuff!

https://ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/hoodgrillset.htm

...They Are Beautifull! When I did Mine, I Left the Screens Out. I do not know if the Screens Impede Air Flow, Or Not. In My View, Just Looks Nicer.

MJ

FYI; the factory grilles are made from plastic but the IPSCO grilles are machined from aluminum. If you’re buying from Wilkinson, make sure you’re getting what you want. The two are not interchangeable. The IPSCO grilles fit a slightly smaller opening than the factory grilles.

Hello all and thanks for the advice. I have a second hood made of fibreglass and decided to add the vents for "fun"  I don't know who I'll buy form in the end: well made aluminum verses "original" plastic.   Will see. Right now its pedal box time!  

And hello to Rene in France. You have done some great work on your car!  Right now I am waiting a bit before ordering from the states. Probably best if you pass your order without me but thanks for the combined shipping offer!

Thanks, Dan

IMHO thats the intelligent was to add mods to a hood or decklid- use a fiberglas body part, Dan! Uncut hoods & decks sell for what some of us paid for the whole car! And Pantera hood baffles are mostly decorative since heated radiator air exhausts thru the wheel wells and under the car, except at idle and very low speeds.

My original GT5 hood vent grilles and my '74 are pot metal, I believe the ones sold by Wilkinson are the same pot metal. I did upgrade to IPSCO on the GT5 when I broke one.

Joules,

In the early '90's, I bought a new hood and grills directly from DeTomaso. The hood came with the vent openings. The grills were plastic and I could tell that they had been cut from a longer grill. Perhaps Maserati Merak. I thought the plastic grills were kinda' cheap, so I bought a set of IPSCO grills, which were beautiful. Problem was, the fit was looser in the openings than the factory grills. I may have bought the grills from Hall Pantera but I'm pretty sure they came from IPSCO. That was a long time ago, so my recollection of events isn't perfect! I guess I just assumed Wilkinson was selling the same grilles that I had bought from the factory, when they were still in business.

If you must have the hood grilles, one show-winning Pantera used a look-alike grille that fastened permanently to the upper radiator shroud and holes in the fiberglas hood fit around it. Looked unique with the hood open.

Does anyone know where one would acquire the template/stencil for the correct cutting/placement of the grills?

Why are you contemplating cutting holes in the hood when it’s been shown the cooling benefits are negligible at best?

Larry

...Larry is Right! The Benefits have, or have not, actually been proven.

All I know is Hot Air comes out of them, and If You have 'A Windshield Cowling Intake 'Vent', as I cut in a 'Secret, Hidden Location' (and closable) for Ventilation...You'll feel some of the heat enter the Cabin.

The 'Hood Vents' were already On my car when I purchased it. They were the Original? Older, Large, with a Wide Border. They Looked Ugly, as a 'Hibotchy Grill'! I took those off, sold them and Replaced them with the Newer Design, You Now can see. Showing just a Row of Fins. Gorgeous!! NO More cutting was necessary...they fit right in, Correctly! I painted the 'Fins' Satin Black, and the Hood Flat Black. I Left the Screens OUT, they don't Look Good, in My Opinion.

As a Fact...I just finished replacing the Vent Mounting Studs with Stainless 'Button-Head' Allen Machine Screws. The Threads are 6-32. I installed them with a Tiny Stainless Washer (Load Spreader). NO Longer, are there un-sightly, Rusty Nuts, showing!

As Larry implied...THINK Long and Hard, before Cutting the Hood!!

...There's NO Going Back!!

MJ

@lf-tp2511 posted:

Why are you contemplating cutting holes in the hood when it’s been shown the cooling benefits are negligible at best?

Larry

I’d just be doing it for esthetics. My car is white and the black vents make a good contrast. Fiberglass hood with precut vents would be much easier for sure. If I purchase a precut hood from Wilkinson, will the IPSCO vents be too small?

I would call Steve at Wilkinson and ask him.  He knows Mark at IPSCO and I am sure they would know.

@lf-tp2511 posted:

Why are you contemplating cutting holes in the hood when it’s been shown the cooling benefits are negligible at best?

Larry

I learned recently the real truth about the vents. It's not cooling!

They installed it because they had issues in Germany at high speed on the Autobahn and significant air pressure under the hood which has blown off (or damaged) some of the hoods. They installed the vents as a pressure relief measure for high speeds.

I would have thought it was lift issues due to pressure being released from under the car.

I would think Rene this is the correct scientific answer. But they even lost hoods as well (for whatever reason, I was not part of it ;-)).

When you say "they lost hoods" who are you referring to?  The factory Group IV cars did not have vents installed and when you see them now, it's because they were put on by subsequent owners.  The Pantera as a factory marque was never raced beyond the Group IV program which predates vents.  Gary Hall has always stated the vents were added as a cooling solution.

I was told that the “legend” of cooling is the reason for the vents (because cooling was a significant issue at the time) prevailed for a long time and it settled in most people’s mind. Also because in a first instance this is a near by explanation when you see it and know about the cooling issues.
The air pressure reasoning is the real course.

I think it’s a classic case of two birds with one stone… Relieving pressure yes increasing air flow through the radiator yes as well…

I have a hood lined up for modification as well… Have to see how it comes out.

I don’t go with the original grills..

The vents did not appear until long after Ford sold their interest in the car at which point sales had dropped to the small quantities of GT5 and GT5s.  Lots of anecdotal stories about what really happened.

@jtpantera posted:

Unloved????  We all now beauty is subjective, However, I love the rectangular vented look!!!  I love them on the Miura as well.  Only wish I had a Miura in my garage to keep the Panteras company.

I would have to sell half my house, but I would to own a Miura.

I got lucky and a friend suddenly asked me if I'd like to drive his '67, which I'd helped rebuild. And while I was excited out of my mind, I quickly realized at 6 ft 2", I really didn't fit. Even with legs spread, my knees were touching the back of the steering wheel with my arms at full stretch, top of my head was brushing the roof and I was only touching the seat with my upper back and tailbone. It was as low to the ground as a Mangusta and also sprung quite stiff.

It had an unbelievable sound going thru the gears (six two-barrel Webers!) and was very revvy for a 4.7L but truth be told I was happy to change seats with him after a few miles of downtown & freeway traffic. It was fun but our Pantera felt as roomy as a Cadillac after 10 minutes driving the Miura.

@bosswrench posted:

I got lucky and a friend suddenly asked me if I'd like to drive his '67, which I'd helped rebuild. And while I was excited out of my mind, I quickly realized at 6 ft 2", I really didn't fit. Even with legs spread, my knees were touching the back of the steering wheel with my arms at full stretch, top of my head was brushing the roof and I was only touching the seat with my upper back and tailbone. It was as low to the ground as a Mangusta and also sprung quite stiff.

It had an unbelievable sound going thru the gears (six two-barrel Webers!) and was very revvy for a 4.7L but truth be told I was happy to change seats with him after a few miles of downtown & freeway traffic. It was fun but our Pantera felt as roomy as a Cadillac after 10 minutes driving the Miura.

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