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Great article Coz, thanks for sharing it with us. I remember reading that magazine article not too long ago in one of my old magazines. I found it interesting.
I've had my 5-S flat out, as fast as it would go (max RPM in 5th gear), on a very long straight stretch of highway where I live both with and without the wing. I noticed no difference. I wish I knew how fast I was going, but I was alone, and I wasn't taking my eyes off the road for a second!
Michael
I've had my 5-S flat out, as fast as it would go (max RPM in 5th gear), on a very long straight stretch of highway where I live both with and without the wing. I noticed no difference. I wish I knew how fast I was going, but I was alone, and I wasn't taking my eyes off the road for a second!
Michael
So in summary the wing works somewhat. But best be balanced with a front spoiler...
Thanks for sharing, Coz.
Kevin
Thanks for sharing, Coz.
Kevin
Kevin,
Really doesn't seem to do much of anything except create drag unless your going 180+ and then you better have a front spolier to balance the car out, as you've said.
So since none of us are running around town doing 180, guess it's back to using it as a picnic table during those Sunday drives :-)
Really doesn't seem to do much of anything except create drag unless your going 180+ and then you better have a front spolier to balance the car out, as you've said.
So since none of us are running around town doing 180, guess it's back to using it as a picnic table during those Sunday drives :-)
Coz, I think there was something in the works a couple of years ago on gathering some hard aerodynamic data on the wing and other "go fast" goodies. Never heard if this materialized.
Kevin
p.s. I'm not a wing guy...but sometimes do suffer from that phenomena called "wing-envy". Especially since hot chicks really dig wings!
Kevin
p.s. I'm not a wing guy...but sometimes do suffer from that phenomena called "wing-envy". Especially since hot chicks really dig wings!
Goram Malmberg did a study on the rear wing. He raised it higher (above the roofline), and claimed it worked better at that height.
The wing study is about half way down the page under 'Aerodynamics':
http://hem.passagen.se/hemipanter/
Michael
The wing study is about half way down the page under 'Aerodynamics':
http://hem.passagen.se/hemipanter/
Michael
Kevin,
There's also an article about wind tunnel tests in the same issue.
I will post it in another thread.
There's also an article about wind tunnel tests in the same issue.
I will post it in another thread.
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Perry:
Coz, I think there was something in the works a couple of years ago on gathering some hard aerodynamic data on the wing and other "go fast" goodies. Never heard if this materialized.
Kevin
p.s. I'm not a wing guy...but sometimes do suffer from that phenomena called "wing-envy". Especially since hot chicks really dig wings!
According to all the race car engineering books I read as a young man, wings are supposed to be located high enough above the vehicle to be in "clean" air, and should have an inverted airplane wing shape (curved on the bottom) to create downforce, just as an airplane wing creates lift.
Which is why the average wing, located too low & shaped flat, is assumed to be worthless as a true aerodynamic aide.
I would also add that just because a wing slows a vehicle's top speed does not indicate that the force it is applying is downward! Unless you actually measure it, you don't really know. The seat of the pants is a measuring device that is sometimes 100% in error. I don't remember anyone ever having the seat of their pants calibrated, do you?
Look at the wing on Whiplash for an example of what a wing that is intended to actually do something looks like.
George
Which is why the average wing, located too low & shaped flat, is assumed to be worthless as a true aerodynamic aide.
I would also add that just because a wing slows a vehicle's top speed does not indicate that the force it is applying is downward! Unless you actually measure it, you don't really know. The seat of the pants is a measuring device that is sometimes 100% in error. I don't remember anyone ever having the seat of their pants calibrated, do you?
Look at the wing on Whiplash for an example of what a wing that is intended to actually do something looks like.
George
quote:I don't remember anyone ever having the seat of their pants calibrated, do you?
Oh George, George, George.
The seat of my pants has been 'calibrated' too many times for my liking in the past five years! It's now time for me to 'recalibrate' it back to where it once was.
But what a laugh I just had!
Michael
Always nice to get feedback that the humor is working!