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In my search for a Pantera I've noticed that many of these cars have so few miles. Why is this so? Have the speedos been altered or do the owners just not enjoy driving these cars? I've seen quite a few "unmodified" or unrestored cars that the speedo shows very few miles for a car as old as the car is. Some are really abused for having so few miles, and some are very pristine. But who would buy a car like this and drive it less than 1000 miles a year?
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It is an exotic, and I imagine many were not driven regularly. Mileage seems consistent with older Ferrari's I've seen for sale.

When I was looking from my Pantera, I looked at cars with as little as 21,000 miles up through 84,000 miles. I bought the highest mileage car I looked at - it was the best all-around running, handling, braking, driving Pantera I looked at. Everything was properly maintained and in working order because it had been used regularly.

BTW - I drive my car as God and Alessandro intended! Over 106,000 miles on it now!
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Funny because it reminds me of when I bought my first Pantera. It had 34.000 miles on it. I drove it 9 hours each way to Chicago for a DeTomaso meet and the people there looked at me as if I came from a different planet.

"You mean you DROVE your car here????"

I honestly didn't understand their surprise.

"Wait, it's a car, right? You DRIVE cars, right? So what's the question?"

I bought my car to drive, and not a year goes by without a long distance road trip. And whenever the sun shines, out comes the car.

There are a lot of people who only take the cars out on Sundays once a month because their baby is all chromed, polished, and perfect. They are afraid something might happen to it.

To each their own - I prefer driving. True, I have a rock chip or two, but I have a lot of memories of driving that others may not. ç

I doubt the speedos are modified - I know people who have never washed their car with water. Ever.
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Originally posted by SoCal:
But who would buy a car like this and drive it less than 1000 miles a year?


Lots of people. I suspect it's the same people who drink fine port or brandy (or Scotch) by the small glass very occasionally, so as to truly savour and appreciate the experience. Having a big mug of Scotch every day is great, but rationing the experience, for some, heightens the appreciation.

My car was owned by one man for 26 years and he drove a total of 9000 miles in all that time. I too drive my car somewhat (but not as) sparingly and get a huge rush every time I do. It's like a friend of mine who moved to California after years here in the North said: "Sure, it's warm all the time, and sunny a lot, but you know, after a really crappy winter (up north), you feel so much more alive and grateful for spring".

To each their own, as long as they enjoy the moments!
I bought my car with around 50K on the odometer. I have put a few thousand miles on it in the year that I have owned it despite the fact that it spent a lot of time in the shop getting sorted out.

There have been long periods of time that I drove it every day despite getting a sad 8.5mpg. It it too much fun to drive only on Saturdays.

R.
I want a car to drive, like Garth says: "I bought the highest mileage car I looked at - it was the best all-around running, handling, braking, driving Pantera I looked at. Everything was properly maintained and in working order because it had been used regularly"

And I can see Mark C's view also: "...it's the same people who drink fine port or brandy (or Scotch) by the small glass very occasionally, so as to truly savour and appreciate the experience. Having a big mug of Scotch every day is great, but rationing the experience, for some, heightens the appreciation".
A car like this would, to me, be a trailer queen; something only driven to shows and on nice Sundays.

I guess it goes to show - different strokes for different folks.
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"...it's the same people who drink fine port or brandy (or Scotch) by the small glass very occasionally, so as to truly savour and appreciate the experience. Having a big mug of Scotch every day is great, but rationing the experience, for some, heightens the appreciation".

I can appreciate this perspective, especially after my car has been down for a while (like it is now) because it needed maintenance or I was improving something. Getting back behind the wheel after a hiatus is EXHILLERATING! I know I've gotten spoiled driving my Pantera daily, and even begun to take for granted how fortunate I am. But I'm always reminded after such a break. And I can't wait to be reminded again.
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Originally posted by 70 stang:
SoCal,
I live very close to San Dimas and also own a cloned group IV Pantera. We need to get together and go for a drive - SOON !!!
Al


As soon as I get my car we'll have to do a run to Solvang for breakfast and day in Santa Barbara. (As gay as that sounds, this is not a date...maybe).
I ran into the same disbelief as Charlie M. when I drove my car back & forth to Texas for a weekend track event with the P-Car guys several years ago. Many were amazed that I actually drove 10 hours there, spent 2 ways thrashing the car on the track & then turned around & drove 10 hours home. I'm now going through severe Pantera withdrawl since my car is in the shop as a result of the "Teeny-bopper runs a stop sign" incident late last year. My normal driving of the car 2-3 times a week has been interrupted & I'm not a happy camper. I think higher mileage on a P-car is a good sign of the improvements made on it & its owners' trust in its ability to be driven anywhere at anytime. FWIW.
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