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I'm going to mount a set of Hall GT5 fiberglass flares soon and need some advice. I know steel is much better and I agree 100%, but don't have the money for steel, so i'm going with the fiberglass.
What I can use is some pictures and advice on how to mount them. So far I believe glueing them on is the best way and not filling in the gap between the fender and the flares, do to the body flex that will crack them the 1st time out. From the poor fit, it looks like a few well places rivits are in order to hold it on tighter to the body. I plan on bolting on the front airdam with quick releases so I can get on the new Hawaii "Super Ferry" due out in 2007. The loading ramps may be steep. This will aid in towing also. This ferry will take you at 45 knots to other Islands with your car. It will hold 250 cars!
Any Ideas or pictures from someone who has done fiberglass would be appreciated.
Thanks
emery@hawaii.rr.com
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I haven't done it myself, but one piece of advice I've read several times is to make sure to mount the flares with the tires mounted and the car on the ground to make sure they are located where you'd like them too. I've seen photos of people who mounted them with the car in the air, and then it looked funny because they were too high, or too low, or something.
The correct glue would be the fiberglass resin mixed with the hardener to bond the fiberglass to the steel. usually in this application I would use the rivets to pull it in tight. if you want the look of rivets ( yuk ) then leave them in. But if your going to bondo over them remove them. Bond dosent stick well to aluminum or use steel ones and leave them in. I'm really in favor of the steel myself.
Ron
check out my site. I just completed the same on my car. Took the fiberglass parts and mended them into the metal. No big deal. Just fill the old rivet holes with fiberglass and patch it up. There will be no visible holes if you perform the repair correctly. We spent about 4 hours lining up the fenders with packing tape. There are pics on my site with some of the steps.

http://www.jacobsracing.com
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Originally posted by accobra:
Nice look crash test and you guys are probably lucky with the climate you live in but here in NY if you bond metal to fiberglass the temperature changes .... unless you lay fiberglass mat of the seem it will crack eventually then a nice paint job has a crack in it.

R


I guess my black GT-5 conversion with fiberglass flares onto metal (as the factory models) is the one exception! Looks as beautiful as it did years ago even through its many temperature and seasonal changes!!


No theories here.. Big Grin Just the factory proven method.
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Originally posted by accobra:
Sorry. no disrespect intended I guess to each his own ! If I do go to flares which I have been considering, it will be metal if they are available or I will fab them myself.


You're right, to each his own...if you want.

Me? I prefer to update and modify along what the factory offered.

Josh
Hello I was just reading your post and it got me thinking.There are many cars built nowadays that have steel bonded with foreign materials like a Saturn for example.If you want to avoid cracking issues I would recomend a flexible epoxy.There are epoxies available today that can literally bond panels together and give almost the same strength as welding.I will try to find out more info on this if you are interested

Sam
Well, well, look who came out of the wood work...Nice to see you Greg.

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Originally posted by crash test dumba$$:
check out my site. I just completed the same on my car. Took the fiberglass parts and mended them into the metal. No big deal. Just fill the old rivet holes with fiberglass and patch it up. There will be no visible holes if you perform the repair correctly. We spent about 4 hours lining up the fenders with packing tape. There are pics on my site with some of the steps.

http://www.jacobsracing.com
Hawaii!
If you look at my site //hem.passagen.se/hemipanter you can see that I did just this work myself, 15 years ago.
And one of the guys that have seen the car is Mike Drew. He van verify that the work looks pretty fair after all these years. Exept for physical damages that my use must live with.

Anyway, I cut "fingers" out of the sheet metal fender that followes the fibre glass fenders and epoxied them together. Then there is fibreglass from the inside over the "fingers" to reinforce. On the outside the epoxie is sandet flat to fender, then a thin layer of fibreglass-mat is applied to reinforce from the outside. This fibre glass must be sanded to equal thickness and be thinner out to nothing at sheetmetal. It is important that EVERY layer of body filler is sanded out in to "nothing". Different thick layers will shrink from sun heat. I admit that this work neither easy or performed fast. Prepare to have patience.
Goran Malmberg
I did a search on google.I wrote "bonding fiberglass to metal" and found that 3M carries some innovative products that may be of interest to you.I would recomend contacting them with your application so that they can refer the best product to use.Whatever product you choose keep the material thickness to a bare minimum to allow for expansion and contraction.

Sam
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