New Rubber Around Glass in Front of Gills

I have to ask the obvious. Are you intalling it all at once, the glass and stainless already installed in the weatherstrip and then installing?

what new rubber have you ?
from what vendor?

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Originally posted by Simon:
what new rubber have you ?
from what vendor?

Good question. Haven't seen any available for quite awhile. Even then, they were quite pricey. Auctioned for over $250 if I recall correctly.

I have not fiddled with those windows for years, so my memory may be failing me. But here goes.....

Glass - gasket - trim - install

put glass in gasket

put trim in gasket

put assembly in car using lubricant -

Place the bottom corner into the opening first,
then slowly work both vertical gasket edges upward, always paying attention to the corners.

I don't remember this as being at all difficult.

It is true you cannot install the trim once the window is in place, but likewise you cannot install the glass with the trim in place. I'm thinking this may be your problem?

Or... the vendor sold you a typical "just like the original" that in actuality isn't "just like the original".

Good luck,

Larry

Does the heavy cord trick work on this window? You wrap a piece of heavy cord in the gasket channel and by carefully pulling the cord it pulls the edges of the gasket around the metal retaining flange?

Of course this technique works best if you have good access to the inside, I. Eat. The engine is out.

Are you using the rope tool trick inserted in the gasket? It helps to have two people. One outside pushing and the other on the inside pulling the rope.

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Originally posted by Rocky:
Does the heavy cord trick work on this window? You wrap a piece of heavy cord in the gasket channel and by carefully pulling the cord it pulls the edges of the gasket around the metal retaining flange?

Of course this technique works best if you have good access to the inside, I. Eat. The engine is out.

The rope tool trick should work. Its definitely a pain getting all the way to the rear window to work the gasket into place.

If you carefully read Jag’s post you will see his problem is not fitting the assembly into the car, but getting the rubber gasket around the glass window.

That is why I wondered if he was trying to mount the rubber with the trim already installed.

And after reading his post again I wonder if he is perhaps trying to install the glass with the gasket and trim already in the car?

Jag, can you clarify exactly what is happening?

Larry

Weed wacker string works really well for this.

Doug M

“Read carefully”!!!


It’s way more fun to shoot out rapid-fire suggestions and input that may or may not apply to the problem at hand!



But after reading more carefully, I see the "string trick" is not needed at this current juncture!

Rocky

I will attempt to clarify some of the questions and comments that have been brought forth and be more descriptive of my situation:
The gill glass is in my basement workshop with the rubber molding sitting next to it, and the stainless molding sitting next to the rubber molding - three separate pieces.
I am attempting to:
1.) "Stretch" the rubber molding around the glass. That is as far as I have gotten because the rubber molding is not "stretching" around the perimeter of the glass. As stated by LF-TP 2511, just like original may be somewhat different than "original".
This Pantera was purchased by me 2 years ago from a gentleman who purchased a number of parts to attempt a pristene rebuild. The rubber moldings were included; therefore, I do not know the vendor that sold him the parts. I do know it was some time ago.
This is the second Pantera I have restored and did not have this issue.
Any additional feedback would be appreciated.

Thank you for the clarification.

As I see it, you are not making any mistakes in your approach plus you’ve already accomplished this task previously.

The only variables here seem to be the gasket or the glass; I’m doubtful the glass is the problem.

At this point I would probably throw in the towel and order new gaskets from a vendor.

That’s all I’ve got.

Larry

I might suggest trying to heat the rubber gasket with a heat gun or your wife's hair dryer on high - see if it makes it more pliable....

Good luck.

Rocky

Its over 100 here now. If I were to put the rubber outside on the driveway for a few minutes it will stretch like a rubber band. Try heating it up.

I'm guessing you don't have the old gasket to do a side by side comparison. Maybe someone on the forum can help. Not sure if pictures would be of any use.

There are two types of gaskets on the market. One from Wilkinson, that doesn‘t fit and one that fits from Italy supplied by Mr.Fiat and Roland Jaeckel (cheaper)in Germany.

A third option: Larry Stock of Pantera Parts Connection in Nevada has NOS quarter window gaskets (front AND rear) direct from the factory. He bought all they had for sale on one of his trips to Italy and hand carried them back to the U.S, and they are guaranteed to fit without a single hoop needing to be jumped through. And for those who say they likely are hard by now, the gaskets delivered on our 1972 L model are still soft and pliable after 90,000 miles of driving; Larrys' have spent their time in room temperature dry storage in a factory box.

Try to boil it in water. Then it is easy to get in place but hot for the fingers