New Rubber Around Glass in Front of Gills

I am in the process of installing new rubber (and the stainless) around the glass positioned in front of the gills. To say the rubber installation around the glass is frustrating is an understatement!
What secrets has anyone got for the ease of installation?
I've used up all the Dawn detergent in the house and a can WD 40 to the point I can barely grasp the glass or rubber in my hands. As one side is fitted, the other side "pops" off. It's as if the rubber will not stretch around the glass.
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I have not fiddled with those windows for years, so my memory may be failing me. But here goes.....

Glass - gasket - trim - install

put glass in gasket

put trim in gasket

put assembly in car using lubricant -

Place the bottom corner into the opening first,
then slowly work both vertical gasket edges upward, always paying attention to the corners.

I don't remember this as being at all difficult.

It is true you cannot install the trim once the window is in place, but likewise you cannot install the glass with the trim in place. I'm thinking this may be your problem?

Or... the vendor sold you a typical "just like the original" that in actuality isn't "just like the original".

Good luck,

Larry
Does the heavy cord trick work on this window? You wrap a piece of heavy cord in the gasket channel and by carefully pulling the cord it pulls the edges of the gasket around the metal retaining flange?

Of course this technique works best if you have good access to the inside, I. Eat. The engine is out.
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Originally posted by Rocky:
Does the heavy cord trick work on this window? You wrap a piece of heavy cord in the gasket channel and by carefully pulling the cord it pulls the edges of the gasket around the metal retaining flange?

Of course this technique works best if you have good access to the inside, I. Eat. The engine is out.


The rope tool trick should work. Its definitely a pain getting all the way to the rear window to work the gasket into place.
If you carefully read Jag’s post you will see his problem is not fitting the assembly into the car, but getting the rubber gasket around the glass window.

That is why I wondered if he was trying to mount the rubber with the trim already installed.

And after reading his post again I wonder if he is perhaps trying to install the glass with the gasket and trim already in the car?

Jag, can you clarify exactly what is happening?

Larry
“Read carefully”!!!


It’s way more fun to shoot out rapid-fire suggestions and input that may or may not apply to the problem at hand!

Smiler

But after reading more carefully, I see the "string trick" is not needed at this current juncture!

Rocky
I will attempt to clarify some of the questions and comments that have been brought forth and be more descriptive of my situation:
The gill glass is in my basement workshop with the rubber molding sitting next to it, and the stainless molding sitting next to the rubber molding - three separate pieces.
I am attempting to:
1.) "Stretch" the rubber molding around the glass. That is as far as I have gotten because the rubber molding is not "stretching" around the perimeter of the glass. As stated by LF-TP 2511, just like original may be somewhat different than "original".
This Pantera was purchased by me 2 years ago from a gentleman who purchased a number of parts to attempt a pristene rebuild. The rubber moldings were included; therefore, I do not know the vendor that sold him the parts. I do know it was some time ago.
This is the second Pantera I have restored and did not have this issue.
Any additional feedback would be appreciated.
Thank you for the clarification.

As I see it, you are not making any mistakes in your approach plus you’ve already accomplished this task previously.

The only variables here seem to be the gasket or the glass; I’m doubtful the glass is the problem.

At this point I would probably throw in the towel and order new gaskets from a vendor.

That’s all I’ve got.

Larry
A third option: Larry Stock of Pantera Parts Connection in Nevada has NOS quarter window gaskets (front AND rear) direct from the factory. He bought all they had for sale on one of his trips to Italy and hand carried them back to the U.S, and they are guaranteed to fit without a single hoop needing to be jumped through. And for those who say they likely are hard by now, the gaskets delivered on our 1972 L model are still soft and pliable after 90,000 miles of driving; Larrys' have spent their time in room temperature dry storage in a factory box.

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