Oil Pan 351c - Pantera

There is an informative article on oil pans in the Nov 2002 POCA newsletter by the always informative Jack DeRyke. This might be of some help.

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Originally posted by derpantera:
Greetings from Germany

I need a new oil pan for a cleveland 351c. Three short questions:

1. Which aftermarket oil pan fits on the pantera in terms of ground clearance

2. Is an aluminium or steel version better?

3. Anyone have any recommendations.

Thanks.

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The US Pantera vendors all sell the Aviaid 10-qt pan, in steel. It it the same depth as a stock pan but is cosiderably longer, thus the extra 4 quarts of oil it can carry. The pan uses a custom pickup that bolts directly to a stock oil pump, has four swinging one-way doors to assure the pump pickup will not run dry in heavy cornering, and uses a semi-circular windage tray plus two scrapers to prevent the infamous "oli rope" from forming around the crank at high revs. A welded temp sender boss is included. There are several other pans for sale in the US, but most are strictly for drag racing so they do nothing for cornering protection.

I've heard many Pantera owners sing the praises about Armandos Racing Oil Pans. He's local to SoCal, but I'm sure he ships.

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/1624/

anyone have any experience with the Milodon pan. Summit sells a 10 qt. pan for $219 plus $35 for the pick- up? about a hundred bucks cheaper than the Aviad set-up from the vendors

I have the Mildon pan. Although it does have a small baffle it is nowhere near the baffling offered by the Aviad and others. As others have said it depends on what you are going to do with the car. I have an oil scraper and windage tray. With the small baffle the pan offers and the 10qt capacity I cannot image enough G forces that push 10qts of oil into my crank causing oil starvation.

Do I reccomend it? I would say spend the extra dough and get the overkill pan. Cheap insuarance as Jack always says.

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it is nowhere near the baffling offered by the Aviad and others. I have an oil scraper and windage tray. With the small baffle the pan offers and the 10qt capacity I cannot image enough G forces that push 10qts of oil into my crank causing oil starvation.

Do I reccomend it? I would say spend the extra dough and get the overkill pan. Cheap insuarance as Jack always says.[/B]

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Right, the crank will not catch up 10 quarts of oil. That way you allways have oil at the pic up. The problem is, if the protection is done by a larger quantities of oil, it is reverse understood that some of the 10 quarts is up in the crank.

The baffling, not by extra oil should perform the protection. As Jack points out, we don�t like "oil worms".

We have two main oil control factors.
1. Getting the oil away from the working engine as effective as possible.
2. Keeping the "stored oil" at the pick-up. And, MAKING IT STAY THERE.

1. Is done by scrapers and widage tray.
2. Is done by trap doors and baffling.

One of the big benefits with a dry-sump is, that there is NO OIL IN THE PAN. That is different from 10 quarts! If we really need 10 quarts or more of oil, for a long distance race, DRY-sump, should be used. Especially in a low mounted sport scar engine application. Where a deep pan could not be used.

I am very much aware that it is a pain to find a good oil-pan. And one might use a bigger pan as a second alternative. But this is different from the understanding of what we should be looking for.

I am VERY sorry if I am disturbing by keep
on talking about this oiling issue. But I find it important.

Kind regards
Goran Malmberg.