One of the many reasons I will never own a Ferrari.

Seems like the premium you are expected to pay for exotics. Have a friend that owns an old Mercedes, an Adenauer 300 from the -50's. Were talking high class limo here, and he had it redone to the best quality. Norway is not a cheap plase to have this kind of work done, but that interior is like 3-4 times the size of an Ferrari's and he payed just dimes more than what that 328 owner did for his car. Give or take $5G.

PS. Of course quality of materials might have something to say, but his car has a few Swedish high quality hides in it, and smells like only a new luxury does.

It just depends on the materials used. I paid over $17,000 for the interior in my 63 Corvette!

Wasnt that the red one from Boyd? Remember from photos that it had quite an advanced interior. Must have taken a few hours to stitch that up.

I had a friend redo his interior on his Pantera, including dash, console, and headliner. Plus the door panels and Replacement seats covered to match and he was over $5000. Everything was done in Italian leather and it included new carpet. I had Precision ProFormance install new Sparco seats covered in Italian leather to match my interior and those alone were just over $3000

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Originally posted by Pantera 4134:
I visit the regional “Ferrari Chat” (Gotta love Chatting!) to keep up with local car events.

One poster owns a 328 and had his seats and I think door panels re covered by a local trim shop. He paid $4600! Seems outrageous to me. Would it cost that much to have the fine original Italian pleathera changed out in my car? Or was this proud owner just paying the Ferrari extra premium?

That car was at Donut Derelicts yesterday and is one of the regulars. Looks really nice!

Mike

Turns out that all he got for his $4600 was:
Leather seat faces
Vinyl seat backs and front console
Re-dyed door panels & rear console

But it did include

“headrests, complete with embossed cavallini”

This might explain the cost.

I 'redid' the interior in my 328 for $405!Starts getting good about page 3...

http://www.ferrarichat.com/for...wthread.php?t=237990

Jeff, this is probably more mine and your speed on bang for the buck. I hear lots of Fcar stories of how much things cost, and OFTEN it's the Fcar overcharge.

Two more things that are bad about Ferraris are: Wannabees and Merchandising. The cars themselves are mostly great...

Wannabees: When I some years ago told people at work that I was going on a trip through Europe to buy a supercar, and mentioned and showed pictures of 2 Panteras and 2 Ferraris, some of them said "If you buy the Ferrari, you have to take me for a ride"(!). Just so that they could say that they had been in a Ferrari...

Merchandising: I know that Ferrari makes tons of money, and if I were a major shareholder, I'd do the same. But when you can buy Ferrari champagne, when Ferrari has it's own merchandising store in Venice (no streets, only canals), and when my local low cost mall sells very cheap child safety seats in red with Ferrari logo, then I've had it...

Just my $0.02...

I dunno. Maybe mine isn't an FCar or an original Vette, but it is an original GT5. Those prices seem a little expensive since my "complete" interior, including fabbing new seats was only $5k plus about $1.5k for materials - all Mercedes leather and carpet.

One of the many reasons we bought a Pantera is bec of its Walmart affordability.
If I had a Ferrari I would expect to pay a lot more for "things". That's just the way it is...comes with the territory.

Josh

David,
The interior of your car is beautiful. I could easily see the value in the work.

The trim shop that did the “F” car purchased pre made seat covers and only did the install. The rest was vinyl and dye work.

Jeff

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One of the many reasons I will never own a Ferrari.

Because I cannot afford one.

Otherwise, I would.

I had the opportunity to buy a 328 last year for $12,000 less than I paid for the pantera. Nice condition, 40,000 mile car. It was the maintenance budget requirement that turned me away.
Doug M

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Originally posted by four walling:

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One of the many reasons I will never own a Ferrari.

Because I cannot afford one.

Otherwise, I would.

Bingo!

Kerry,
I have always loved Ferraris. Classic Italian styling and a long and storied racing heritage. Like Doug I considered and could have purchased a 328 for similar money 15 years ago.

But my decision to purchase the Pantera was simple. Being mechanically challenged I felt I could learn to work on the Pantera. The availability of affordable parts was also important.

The clincher (besides IMHO the Pantera being a much better looking car!) was the sound and performance of the classic Ford Cleveland. Sorry Adams and other 328 owners, but the car has no soul. Nice car love the targa top. But it is a boring Ferrari wannabe.

Just my 2 cents, now worth 1 cent.
Jeff

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Originally posted by Pantera 4134:
Kerry,
I have always loved Ferraris. Classic Italian styling and a long and storied racing heritage. Like Doug I considered and could have purchased a 328 for similar money 15 years ago.

But my decision to purchase the Pantera was simple. Being mechanically challenged I felt I could learn to work on the Pantera. The availability of affordable parts was also important.

The clincher (besides IMHO the Pantera being a much better looking car!) was the sound and performance of the classic Ford Cleveland. Sorry Adams and other 328 owners, but the car has no soul. Nice car love the targa top. But it is a boring Ferrari wannabe.

Just my 2 cents, now worth 1 cent.
Jeff

Yeah okay.

No need to drag down other marques.
The Pantera is an amazing car in its own right.
Stick to Panteras... LOL.

“Yeah okay.

No need to drag down other marques.
The Pantera is an amazing car in its own right.
Stick to Panteras... LOL.”

JK,


My personal observation is not an attempt to diminish the Ferrari marquee. This is my opinion after driving a specific Ferrari model, the 328.

Sorry if you were offended.

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Originally posted by JK:
One of the many reasons we bought a Pantera is bec of its Walmart affordability.
If I had a Ferrari I would expect to pay a lot more for "things". That's just the way it is...comes with the territory.

Josh

OUCH! That Walmart thing is pretty hard to fathom.

Can we at least bump it up to Sears?

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Originally posted by A Hudson:
I 'redid' the interior in my 328 for $405!Starts getting good about page 3...

http://www.ferrarichat.com/for...wthread.php?t=237990

Jeff, this is probably more mine and your speed on bang for the buck. I hear lots of Fcar stories of how much things cost, and OFTEN it's the Fcar overcharge.

Beautiful work Adams !

And you claim that you are not good working on your cars.
Jeff

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Originally posted by Pantera 4134:
...but the car has no soul. Nice car love the targa top. But it is a boring Ferrari wannabe.

Just my 2 cents, now worth 1 cent.
Jeff

First off, and just to be clear, you're a goob.

With that out of the way, the 'soul' comment is oft - and correctly - said of certain vehicles for which the lineage is shorter-lived, or purely derivative, unoriginal, "heritage-less", or appliance-like. Some Asian vehicles come to mind.

Many in the car community would be hard-pressed to say ANY of those things apply to Ferrari.

I'll concede that parts are indecently high, but such is the price of exclusivity, and I don't defend, support nor call it some weird snob-appeal. It just is.

You go to that factory, and look at those workers and the portrait of a driven man for whom a singular vision said 'Up yours' to many bigger playerss - FORD INCLUDED - and something inside you starts to move. And it ain't bad clams.

So, the 328 is/was an 'entry level' car built to have 'mass appeal' (in Ferrari terms, STILL less than 6000 cars). Never was the fastest nor the rarest, by design. So if somebody paid $3800 for too little leather and too much ego, fair enough. (BTW, we should all price our services according to the market, not our interpretation of what it 'should' be.)

Part of the reason I love the Pantera community is the "who gives a rip about price or pedigree, just give me performance" mantra.

Yet, there IS a 'counter' argument.

You'd be surprised how many Ferrari owners 'justify' the high parts and repair prices by their car's appreciation. So, the Pantera in which a person has stuffed $20k of 'cheap' performance dollars may get about $4k back when he/she sells. The same Fcar guy might've spent that $20k 'foolishly' on overpriced parts and maintenance, but gets all of it back when he sells.

So, dollar for dollar, it's not always what it seems.

Kerry, I hope you get that Ferrari one day. You might find that in the end result, it was the 'cheapest' car you ever owned. Imagine that, being paid to drive a Ferrari.

I knew this would get a rise out of you Adams,

"goob" is that some Alabama term for "A" Hole ?

I am a Yankee by birth and un like you gentile southerners prefer to be more direct.

As for your 328 sorry but IMO it is a soulless car. My opinion and if it offends your Gucci and Gold chain persona …………… too bad !


There is no way that you can drive “Your” Pantera and compare the car’s character to the 328. The Cleveland has gobs of torque pulls like crazy. The 328 has what 4 cylinders?


A Pantera is a “Man’s" car the 328 is for those boys who want to play “Magnum PI”

Take that Hudson!